From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCQwvDjBBoEw7y9OA@googlegroups.com Mon Aug 30 14:23:15 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OqBot-0001kk-Eh; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:23:15 -0700 Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26sf1920932wwf.16 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:23:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TSuaE1OLIjXwaNEdTvOgRzknEgYFiWs+jOvD98OYfLw=; b=48ikON4k6HNxPO+COv0M4qXmpeKR98RlNXkpZXEfrGb1wEJIXBEi9CQm9jJ3+atzLB HgwQ7PR5t0IKnUQmIDVMSC5xS/60CryWACBMFZpe6ElOzY3aRNYmwz/hxHhwdJ5rrLIf 3Ga9Q+bamQpFwKnelv+0OsDGPpnHKiZbkyELU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=4V9evWEZrtgEo+x4mOMa/xF9k93QMrz5EYyNRkIdPRK0sL0LTOeB01jBawA50PkAiU S+q4iDCA7sej8wOaEMsebOk7uZ2c3sDc0gTnkFMzcI/kO6Sr5s3cCtud2C8rpwATxC4h K00spjcqRJ+FtMSbLzlCVrx+WZ/W6NOa8Lsa8= Received: by 10.216.145.167 with SMTP id p39mr992050wej.25.1283203344931; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:22:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.39.10 with SMTP id d10ls49260wbe.2.p; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.12.208 with SMTP id y16mr196816wby.16.1283203343039; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.12.208 with SMTP id y16mr196815wby.16.1283203343012; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f52.google.com (mail-ww0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ey20si2975898wbb.6.2010.08.30.14.22.21; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.52; Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so2048374wwi.33 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.128.134 with SMTP id k6mr5636127wbs.23.1283203341842; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.147 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:22:21 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] english ambiguity From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > It's always fun to see an ambiguity in English and see if I can re-produc= e > it in lojban. =A0I rarely can, but it's a fun exercise and is always > re-assuring to see the language un-broken ;) > ko citka lo vikmi gi'e mrobi'o "lo vikmi" or "lo kalci"? > citka je vikmi je mrobi'o "ko"? > I've always believed that the former is the one that's intended but you > can't really tell which is meant when the phrase is just spoken verbally. Isn't the stress pattern different for the two senses, though? It seems to me that "eat" is unstressed in the first phrase and stressed in the second phrase. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.