From lojban+bncCPrlgoD04bGDVBC_jebiBBoE81JnWA@googlegroups.com Wed Aug 04 08:27:16 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ogfs7-0004QT-Df; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:27:15 -0700 Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18sf1249823fxm.16 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:27:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=4DHzux6V8Qa0/H3GcodZh42eKvvcOUp0/fIkJKFvW9I=; b=SoE26KUF1DoPE4chUp1+tEt6t549SablmDk6fuyDuByJyaplCbepcvUARIFiVJ2DxB 7frBh65NNNTmr2mhjIcAn0eFcv7nCP998KloldHXKsjqK00I/diyqL6YuUeEXBr3rKU7 VpxWUPVsVpdDtgFSy3tberuOhJmSbPWlotuos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ltv0Rv0AwL32WrrcRa5RZ+Hp1aH772eJdp/LPqyWZair0k2Q87ZMD+GpqPxoVxduds YF2q9se8ZoIKqFCccz5fsfwCQxy2sWKzowkrIoE953V8N+BYenZRneh8j6CUsYb/Gxrw iuJMUMKf9NaCtESXiCYVehHn9ngo57IUtXj5A= Received: by 10.223.76.208 with SMTP id d16mr329273fak.14.1280935615463; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:26:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.152.197 with SMTP id h5ls387055bkw.3.p; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.80.167 with SMTP id t39mr297434bkk.11.1280935614506; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.80.167 with SMTP id t39mr297433bkk.11.1280935614462; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n18si4679815bkw.6.2010.08.04.08.26.53; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.53; Received: by bwz6 with SMTP id 6so3188457bwz.12 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.138 with SMTP id v10mr6260126bku.133.1280935613256; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.24.19 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 08:26:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100514151041.GH29740@nvg.org> References: <4BECC801.7020203@gmail.com> <201005140100.07543.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4BED59FD.5060404@gmail.com> <20100514151041.GH29740@nvg.org> From: Philip Newton Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 17:26:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban dictionary To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: philip.newton@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=philip.newton@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 17:10, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:11:09AM -0300, Leo Molas wrote: >> Anyway, the main idea of showing this to you was getting feedback, and >> if you say it's pointless, fair enough. I actually don't need IPA; it >> was just to make the dictionary homogeneous to others in others languages. > > For what it's worth, my Finnish dictionary doesn't have pronuncations, and my Norwegian and Swedish dictionaries only have pronunciations in the cases where the pronunciation is irregular (and then only of the irregular part of the word). My German Duden dictionary is like your no/sv ones: pronunciation is indicated (in IPA) only for (portions of) words that are irregular. It does always mark the stressed vowel, though (since that's predictable, and can be phonemic): underdot for "stressed short vowel", under-macron for "stressed long vowel". > It comes down to how predictable the pronunciation of the language is, I guess. *nods* mu'o mi'e .filip. -- Philip Newton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.