From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDg3eriBBoEMsdSug@googlegroups.com Thu Aug 05 05:30:48 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ogzaq-0000W0-Oy; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 05:30:47 -0700 Received: by gwj18 with SMTP id 18sf5089480gwj.16 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 05:30:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=8a8XvKnkfGKdMkvvzdYJ3o2HDgnMpbr/M19gXwv6hDg=; b=yzk1QzmZidXvo17HJVtztecDZOvazaUOzXE2sP284wOoY0pq9K8ducxIDRRzyXlW8G aJiOXNWpqvGm0wEUBMbvoemotndihycZg5p8HVJv3GVAX09uFU0fAmZvZaMTQwyxsGhT 67XM9XIqGNZ5ojan+pkwgelHqkS2nKbrWXm/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=gxBeAAfnbRxK+CfdR5rnB6XUo+404gKzvvmW9p/eM56rKMDe5y19tXNfxNMpGVBhNW g4laiOtgRdWEkEN0ZkrW0T5ZMSURHtoeljQ/0RVc7c9/fKcVgLhLl4l2BBadwzvPBy+i iI9rkKSzaFZeX2Qh1sBtzJIZEJ+W4+FIowYUs= Received: by 10.90.91.6 with SMTP id o6mr1987356agb.4.1281011424691; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 05:30:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.125.77 with SMTP id x13ls622782ibr.1.p; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 05:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr1602406ibb.5.1281011423857; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 05:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr1602405ibb.5.1281011423834; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 05:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id db12si84330ibb.1.2010.08.05.05.30.23; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 05:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=h4ObEaoJZLTM5SHWQDGs6q0qkqdOOP/6S5wPMauIuKo= c=1 sm=0 a=g5KxUGB6YZcA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=lp5s7d2yydoWf7Ii0bYA:9 a=Z0zT7DH-ehksdvfW0hUZcXBBI-oA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:58247] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id E3/E8-16283-EDEAA5C4; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:30:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671D54419 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:30:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Translation Help Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:30:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <5c502663-6c46-47d8-9808-cd093da084b7@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <560aa019-ff1d-42d3-8afc-0e5e92136e33@q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <560aa019-ff1d-42d3-8afc-0e5e92136e33@q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201008050830.15810.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 05 August 2010 05:03:23 ftmassana wrote: > Thanks everyone, > I'm not really an English speaker, and I apologize for my mistakes. > > The original text is in Spanish, the language I'm writing the book. > The text is: > > "La eternidad no se mide con tiempo. El tiempo no sue=F1a con momentos. > Los momentos se escriben con eternidad." > > For me it is really difficult to translate the connotations of those > "con" in English language for my ignorance. Lojban has no prepositions as vague as "con", except "do'e" which can mean= =20 anything. Could you make some sentences with easier-to-figure-out nouns wit= h=20 the same meanings of "con"? For instance, "La talla se mide con la cinta". Pierre --=20 The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.