From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxC89OviBBoED8KX5w@googlegroups.com Thu Aug 05 10:52:15 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh4bz-0003Cy-4J; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:52:14 -0700 Received: by yxj4 with SMTP id 4sf15081790yxj.16 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:52:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=lOJohMOj3riBwlNe787j91hzz69ngaGJse70WPtjs20=; b=02CKZ0Dbax290kO3XA5Sz17S61l56i6Zq6svIpk6FUQ8Kz1RRHscauTgNUKxpYQET+ 3NRfNJwjGWXOoOBcKcxUSSyFxfgeP36XFCaEvm8Bl7aiX/SxgUiUqPm6BP3brbDJh42W gJaj3JFaU7KO/jWq6LfL3BVqYvj1tgEiZFUrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=P2hxecqZGItuPToSDw53RAJZIcSJjVzTziiBaIZcA2xGSY9ktmOB/st+0dbnQe7/kP BEgvVEQooK/MiVsYjTv1QN6tfuEQ2S7upg0p0c7+Bvn5n7o+nHt1lK0huGr/wlzkTzXh UhqjdOjAIQeti1qzMF+7wMc3m+zi5Lkhm96O0= Received: by 10.101.114.12 with SMTP id r12mr1335488anm.25.1281030716360; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:51:56 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.193.98 with SMTP id dt34ls708082ibb.0.p; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.58.206 with SMTP id i14mr1007661ibh.0.1281030714558; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.58.206 with SMTP id i14mr1007660ibh.0.1281030714535; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id db12si266946ibb.1.2010.08.05.10.51.53; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=UmXZWupe4sRXzVmDSlBdSzmDHC7SbwGEnE0ZMitDzeU= c=1 sm=0 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=KcPB9vLAO91tvtQFJmYA:9 a=tcIUGGrTyG0nFjamlOp4b0kYW94A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:35420] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 41/92-11447-83AFA5C4; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:51:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC2561EC for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:51:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Auditions Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:51:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <2da8180a-51b0-4555-9ff7-1a1b7e6f5c77@a4g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <55527712-fd80-4cca-8743-6ef4203d82cc@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <55527712-fd80-4cca-8743-6ef4203d82cc@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201008051351.48090.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 05 August 2010 13:19:41 Lindar wrote: > > As for the culture of Pakistan/India is concerned, here's what i have. > > > > People here are very focused on families. They considers families, big > > families, as a blessing. Mostly there are atleast three generations > > living together under one roof. > > This sounds absolutely horrifying by western standards, and this is > one of the many culture-clashes that I've noticed in trying to piece > together our culture-puzzle. In most 'western' cultures, independence > is strongly emphasised. Some people will be 'family people' and spend > a lot of time visiting relatives/parents, and some will not, but it's > very strongly emphasised that children should leave home as soon as > possible. > > > The kids usually live with their parents almost all there life. > > Again, this sounds horrifying by my cultural standards. I love my > mother, but I'd sooner strangle her to death than live with her my > entire life, and I know for a fact she feels the same way. This is important for me to know, as I'm going to lay out the suburbs soon.= =20 I've drawn the major roads and canals. I was thinking of dividing the subur= bs=20 into irregular polygons about 500 dunams, with canals bordering each one, a= nd=20 subdividing each of those into lots of a dunam each; but that wouldn't work= =20 for people with large families under one roof. (A dunam, or stremma, is 100= 0=20 m=B2, except in Iraq where it's 2500 m=B2. I'm using the international duna= m.) I wouldn't mind living next door to my mother, but with her I would. She's = a=20 neat freak and I leave stuff around. I did live for about a year in my=20 great-aunt's basement. Pierre --=20 Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.