From lojban+bncCNCCoMTMDhCChqfkBBoEOAz9yg@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 09 22:33:07 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OtwER-0004Xv-7i; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:33:06 -0700 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf473400wyb.16 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:32:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=san6edpdQqsAfk6h42BeV7RN3H2q2NoIERa+MktNL4A=; b=fDfnhye5vCUSAHdsaiWIumUfPK9/85+kdz+fP3QsX8PbaaTkwoGURNL2fjkUnld1qJ Jwj0AoBNU+k9cL0ke3vKieRBwFX+m9EXt15m5+YpCh12qsfDRrml7P9GVhdI6XlDNEnd kuVzbYQq9Bh4L4l9SWy1MooAPAAdcv4G8lilE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=kCzA05wpss8pjeq+GQB1ru30ZrzA81Ws9Q8zag3zB6B8zS66awaR+FcUz5HfDaX5OI 774MBcAM2Y60DilBcgEXVuOgAdd6cRajQ315ymfOK14wVMDIDKUclRmLST83f6LVOsfD IvwQMdvF5sFpakVnBM3gFcfscJx8USfQLvjMo= Received: by 10.216.145.90 with SMTP id o68mr31111wej.8.1284096770689; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:32:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.92.203 with SMTP id s11ls2719940wbm.1.p; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.207.209 with SMTP id fz17mr19036wbb.27.1284096769444; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.207.209 with SMTP id fz17mr19035wbb.27.1284096769411; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f177.google.com (mail-wy0-f177.google.com [74.125.82.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ey20si753613wbb.2.2010.09.09.22.32.48; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.177; Received: by mail-wy0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 38so2646564wyb.36 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.156.14 with SMTP id u14mr473140wbw.55.1284096768251; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:32:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.149.67 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:32:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100910011141.GS20652@digitalkingdom.org> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:32:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Teaching methods, especially WRT terminators, and validation thereof To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Lindar wrote: > > I haven't seen you produce anything .i tcetce lo ka jitfa .i la .xorxes. cu traji vajni .i ko sinma > truth is that I have spent at least 20 hours per month (likely much > more than that) teaching new people, ki'e sai jboctu .i lo do tadji cu snada xamgu .ia .i ku'i lo vrici cu xamgu .i mi cilre fu lo mutce to'e jibni gi'e snada .ia .i lo cinmo vanbi ji'a cu vajni lo nu jbocli .i ma'a ralte rau nintadni va'o lo za'i xendo .e lo za'i sarxe > 4. Nobody wants to stay with the community long enough to prove either > point. The sad reality of it is that no matter how hard we teach this > way and no matter how many students we actually get to learn and speak > this way, our new students don't actually stick with us. .i so'a nintadni cu cliva .i ku'i so'u nintadni cu stali .i ki'e fi'i stali la jbogu'e cu melbi tumla .ie pei ni'o mi mulno morji fi lo nu do nintadni doi .lindar. .i .ue do stali .i .i'e do certu zenba .i ko co'a condi pe'a jbotadni .i mu'a ko tavla fi lo ctuca tadji fo lo ma'a bangu > I hope we gain a mutual understanding through all of this and actually > figure out what really works, because the debate is getting tired at > this point. .ie .i'i mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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