From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDgpafkBBoE5bh3qg@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 09 23:40:48 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OtxHw-0000x8-BU; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:40:48 -0700 Received: by qyk12 with SMTP id 12sf2456299qyk.16 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:40:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PFgo7Jngh38nhATUAOs+l2WMHmi27QwzTBJRr6J+GcQ=; b=W7pifOQ/FJjs0bN8V2Vd9mYkNrfj2cXDjf2UKGehTotsatTV8OMvU5jfGBM17SbgfD Q54lrS4V5rio9A2gS+8SdrYI1ANLfbfOnPOsa1EkSZYsOv2+OwOlnmUFypWjwK4rAsLG LojgZlYCjNXurWDmVg8iSzUK+5DElzSopRkQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=djMeOt6wLhGKilNM+WVJtNDBMk2peyOWBa1ompt3gMO8In2RW7EJUiMlT4Sqd4fCK0 VNBJvrm3qMrYAQyKz0WlXWYTy+vj5iYrEodh1WAGwAt7oVVhZwQyhCZqG2aZmMAd7FcK 6ylNnD59sCNTLKBFXfNMeVkEjhWcUXjcXUS0c= Received: by 10.224.64.90 with SMTP id d26mr5574qai.45.1284100832179; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:40:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.58.228 with SMTP id i36ls1485109qah.4.p; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.67.132 with SMTP id r4mr6205qai.24.1284100831709; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.67.132 with SMTP id r4mr6204qai.24.1284100831671; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com (mail-qy0-f174.google.com [209.85.216.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y27si1149298qce.14.2010.09.09.23.40.30; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.174; Received: by mail-qy0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 36so7260509qyk.12 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.54.69 with SMTP id p5mr9489qag.264.1284100830485; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.19.133 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8b453452-2848-4a00-bad8-5441c5cfbf81@w15g2000pro.googlegroups.com> References: <20100910011141.GS20652@digitalkingdom.org> <8b453452-2848-4a00-bad8-5441c5cfbf81@w15g2000pro.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:40:30 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Teaching methods, especially WRT terminators, and validation thereof From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cdee2db5ea4048fe20598 --0015175cdee2db5ea4048fe20598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Lindar wrote: > > .i lo nu broda kei ku lo brode ku brodi > .i lo nu broda ku lo brode cu brodi > ^ required terminator > .i lo nu broda kei lo brode cu brodi .i lo nu broda kei cu brodi lo brode .i lo nu broda cu brodi lo brode are equivalent, with the last being my preference for that particular bridi, and my first coming second. > > .xorxes. is one of the most respected members of this community. I don't > > think anyone would say his word is law, and most everyone has at least > > privately disagreed with him on occasion, what he says is well thought > out, > > usually makes a good deal of sense, and is agreeable to the majority if > not > > the entirety of those who listen to him. > > Has done is not is doing. > My statement was in the present. I was not referring to past works. Others have already mentioned them. > > > Have you managed to determine the likely causes for their casual interest > > failing to develop into a more serious one? > > I really wish I could figure this out. I think it's that Lojban just > isn't important enough, and many people find that life takes away the > free time they thought they had. Sadly, 'fake languages' rank below > soul-numbing MMOs and other nonproductive hobbies, which people have > little time for between work, friends, and a bitchy significant other. > Life is rough, and Lojban seems to be the first thing to get cut when > somebody is looking to create more free/spare time. > > Ah, that explains why so many continuing jbopre are geeks, eh? > Thank you for your input and perspective on the situation. > Anytime. Thanks for listening rationally. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015175cdee2db5ea4048fe20598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yah= oo.com> wrote:
<snip>
.i lo nu broda kei ku lo brode ku brodi
.i lo nu broda ku lo brode cu brodi
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ^ required terminator

.i lo nu broda kei lo brode cu brodi
.i lo nu broda kei cu = brodi lo brode

.i lo nu broda cu brodi lo brode

are equivalen= t, with the last being my preference for that particular bridi, and my firs= t coming second.

<sni= p>
> .xorxes. is one of the most respected membe= rs of this community. I don't
> think anyone would say his word is law, and most everyone has at least=
> privately disagreed with him on occasion, what he says is well thought= out,
> usually makes a good deal of sense, and is agreeable to the majority i= f not
> the entirety of those who listen to him.

Has done is not is doing.

My statement was i= n the present. I was not referring to past works. Others have already menti= oned them.
=A0
<snip>
> Have you managed to determine the likely causes for their casual inter= est
> failing to develop into a more serious one?

I really wish I could figure this out. I think it's that Lojban j= ust
isn't important enough, and many people find that life takes away the free time they thought they had. Sadly, 'fake languages' rank below=
soul-numbing MMOs and other nonproductive hobbies, which people have
little time for between work, friends, and a bitchy significant other.
Life is rough, and Lojban seems to be the first thing to get cut when
somebody is looking to create more free/spare time.

Ah, that explains why so many continuing jbopre are g= eeks, eh?
=A0
Thank you for your input and perspective on the situation.
=

Anytime. Thanks for listening rationally.

--
mu= 'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe den= pa bu

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