From lojban+bncCJrK5PGGEBDU5ankBBoEM_VMrw@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 10 11:03:18 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou7wP-00012H-Kn; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:03:17 -0700 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf617169wyb.16 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:03:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:from:organization :to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :x-interia-antivirus:x-emid:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=EQev1KXkRIzZlnVL4qfLK9YzlthAkrBRvmrxI/SPsBk=; b=zMYYet8SMqM6I+A3bzDb+Ci6l3CG8qQZGGGbpt12mstBqrUG2aFPdz198nWgpTe6Ol 7ToWAM1z6JPsPlAaw31FJYwbY0bN50a0BIoBMrvJ/RRnRJlxKFrEHlA0M82BzGeSKYEu IOS59aIphJR7qdxzZJmnuZWebUghyNX3KSDq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:organization:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:x-interia-antivirus:x-emid :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; b=pjF2lZAb9ec6UxtKWrYS2ZwZObm/tKlPChaZ0MlHXtj6950TiEi+a7UutFq9IPnT5l OkD7hQ6OOqMxv4trPT8JVYOB7tjfPWeLFt4Tv9QpZg5BjtgRME8N6WH7/8Pk+Z9RLbsk wiWRYVZk1+kisiHDlohCxSX2ei7pQvoF2CN7M= Received: by 10.216.145.97 with SMTP id o75mr189616wej.16.1284141780230; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.46.209 with SMTP id r57ls498222eeb.2.p; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.45.9 with SMTP id o9mr64834eeb.7.1284141779124; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.45.9 with SMTP id o9mr64832eeb.7.1284141779063; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.205]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a48si2962921eei.6.2010.09.10.11.02.58; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.205 as permitted sender) client-ip=217.74.65.205; Received: by smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL, from userid 502) id BD7DB1A42D4E; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:02:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zx-spectrum-1 (c204.idd156.nettete.pl [77.79.204.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:02:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jezuch by zx-spectrum-1 with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou82o-00073S-09 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:09:50 +0200 From: Krzysztof Sobolewski Organization: Sobole To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Teaching methods, especially WRT terminators, and validation thereof Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:09:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.33.7; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3469558.SI4EA3ej3W"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009102009.49921.jezuch@interia.pl> X-Interia-Antivirus: OK X-EMID: 68748acc X-Original-Sender: jezuch@interia.pl X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.205 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jezuch@interia.pl Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , --nextPart3469558.SI4EA3ej3W Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia pi=C4=85tek, 10 wrze=C5=9Bnia 2010 o 03:36:36 Luke Bergen napisa=C5=82= (a): > Theoretically speaking I tend to agree with lindar. When syllable count = is > equal, I prefer {ku} to {cu}. For the programmers out there, {cu} feels > like a goto statement. i.e. sloppy and shortcut-esque. It depends on the programmer and their preferred language, probably. I am a= programmer too (surprise!) and I have no problems with {cu} whatsoever. Ye= s, in C-type languages you have to pedantically close all those curly brace= s, but in Python you just stop indenting. Even in LISP, where you have to m= atch those parens (unless your dialect has a superparen), you just lump the= m together when you finish a larger sexp. So no, I don't think it's like the sloppy and dirty GOTO. It's more like a = tagged break statement, which we all know is clean and elegant and structur= al ;) =2D-=20 Ecce Jezuch "Adapting, shifting, lacking opinion, our numbers exceeding the billions Everly walking among ourselves down the Corridor of Chameleons" =2D T. 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