From lojban+bncCJrK5PGGEBCMia7kBBoE8pqN5Q@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 11 06:31:12 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OuQAZ-0006pI-QW; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:31:11 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf706578wwe.16 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:30:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:from:organization :to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :x-interia-antivirus:x-emid:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=fV6HzL6jl5zV8FdggpHxxYoqpyYBzn4czmpORHAbigw=; b=C6BBuqsl0iaj7BSVKscFvK1pHb4NQJ6ig2fXgo6ZiUn9YNYzVcTCH7WqflibLk155C dOCSIMkSHtYTduj9UKewVUTLlKuzc2jN/uBf+NM8sUsiAD5/B4so5/P5IqCPp+jfSxuc JyJw887GQHZgrA7Y1gM7Fogadqyd3rpgYhVRc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:organization:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:x-interia-antivirus:x-emid :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; b=JYntAgKZnHQD+om/viSdA+X4PdB5yWofY8izZdzH11X5eCjimbmrDNov8+hpUJnoh3 oiTjy4MhnicY93gW/9QSZ3R7VK3IRlDMw8vvZT49hHCxvdR8VMJIYPbPOXlsDTa3jRLG k7ahWthDFcCVp0mo5+GdxfQFh1YRCYVooSS3g= Received: by 10.216.145.130 with SMTP id p2mr291164wej.7.1284211852157; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:30:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.35.157 with SMTP id u29ls542320eea.6.p; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.37.142 with SMTP id y14mr37253eea.1.1284211850134; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.37.142 with SMTP id y14mr37252eea.1.1284211850093; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.205]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w43si4004745eeh.3.2010.09.11.06.30.49; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.205 as permitted sender) client-ip=217.74.65.205; Received: by smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL, from userid 502) id 9FF5510A4D88; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:30:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zx-spectrum-1 (c204.idd156.nettete.pl [77.79.204.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:30:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jezuch by zx-spectrum-1 with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OuQHB-0000Q7-CZ for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:37:53 +0200 From: Krzysztof Sobolewski Organization: Sobole To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Dialects Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:37:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.33.7; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <7a4fca9e-1da6-488e-b573-97050714db87@u5g2000prn.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <7a4fca9e-1da6-488e-b573-97050714db87@u5g2000prn.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1629953.Z8CQF4Glrl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009111537.53075.jezuch@interia.pl> X-Interia-Antivirus: OK X-EMID: 7ed48acc X-Original-Sender: jezuch@interia.pl X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.205 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jezuch@interia.pl Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , --nextPart1629953.Z8CQF4Glrl Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia sobota, 11 wrze=B6nia 2010 o 14:38:04 Lindar napisa=B3(a): > I think I've figured it out. > It's a dialect, if there ever could be such a thing in Lojban. I vehently agree ;) I was wondering how would one simulate different dialects, slangs etc., bec= ause I am kinda planning to translate something that would require this. Em= phasizing terminators and emphasizing {cu} is one way to differentiate the = language. Do you know of any others? Except now I can't talk about simulation, now that it emerged spontaneously= ;) > I'm actually quite pleased by this. Lojban seems much more... > legitimate... now that we seem to have emerging dialects. We should > name them and celebrate them! britai? juftai? What would be a good > word for 'dialect'? What should we call the dialects themselves? I > like lindarbau myself. =3DD How about "keiku"? zo'osai > I think it would be very interesting and beneficial project to > document the differences in dialects as I can identify at least two. > We could document this as actual linguistic growth in the community > (i.e. bonus points cos it makes us look like a "real language", not a > scifi geek one), and then have lessons on "how to talk like a...". > It's almost like the difference between kansai-ben and kanto-ben (in > fact, that's almost a scarily accurate analogy). >=20 > So... what does everyone think? My thoughts, exactly :) =2D-=20 Ecce Jezuch "But it's not real and that's why its how I always want to feel so let's die, before the secret gets revealed I've tried but nothing ever can appeal and if you don't mind I'd like to throw it all away" - J. Stem --nextPart1629953.Z8CQF4Glrl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkyLhi0ACgkQy0fq9RM+TxjfZQCg13d05dGWZ28M0ygLYvc1W3Cy x6cAnRcesTseVCB2G1O3FbJxcd5UDGyo =7cu9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1629953.Z8CQF4Glrl--