From lojban+bncCNCCoMTMDhCdla_kBBoEZl1TzQ@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 11 11:30:09 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OuUpt-0004FI-BV; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:30:09 -0700 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf783193wyb.16 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=dt/+Q/L+lYT61ky4X02RZrWQECdyJVRGg3iXnWQXQqw=; b=kBSEPD2w4wNBwxgPHlkT5c3J627ELyE2v4tgdI7OvcFd2TJxpQZCrg1W+AcQJHUkwd /MR1OBTXiC50M8efPZh1VVC5oFOGV8jG8qhEvjg9pknnQSqE7mYFCb15NlK0qvxMqG5t rUqKozDSuUXAAynzhoQ+um/81C3pLsMMSMtS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=BCwZ4g5Zd7me7IxngnA/uBj+oyF3bAR/58RcdIJABztctg09pQXc+jhQJRvASF7Ohs D6M75vMsIDTEdrwxsWa/aypfGg828Pte5QRG+lMa1kKsjTp5X+iCvWu/R6DQmkPQKlc7 0mtVgT7oT9O+PBGn6p5eXWV+zIBM+9zqUGx+M= Received: by 10.216.145.135 with SMTP id p7mr307189wej.26.1284229789643; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.237.165 with SMTP id y37ls3786931weq.1.p; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.13.199 with SMTP id b49mr158897web.10.1284229788447; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.13.199 with SMTP id b49mr158896web.10.1284229788413; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f173.google.com (mail-wy0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v4si1390585weq.1.2010.09.11.11.29.47; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.173; Received: by wyb39 with SMTP id 39so4212021wyb.32 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.39.23 with SMTP id d23mr576326wbe.181.1284229787178; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.149.67 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009111537.53075.jezuch@interia.pl> References: <7a4fca9e-1da6-488e-b573-97050714db87@u5g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <201009111537.53075.jezuch@interia.pl> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:29:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Dialects To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010/9/11 Krzysztof Sobolewski : > > I was wondering how would one simulate different dialects, slangs etc., because I am kinda > planning to translate something that would require this. Emphasizing terminators and > emphasizing {cu} is one way to differentiate the language. Do you know of any others? I wouldn't go so far as to call the variations in the way we speak Lojban "dialects", I would just call them "styles". There aren't really any separate speaking communities that have been diverging. There's slightly different Lojban spoken on the mailing list vs IRC, but on the whole it's spoken two different ways by the exact same people, so I'm inclined to think of it as stylistic differences in a single dialect. When we get a localized speaking community having regular RL meetings (looks like the Bay Area might be first?) it'll be interesting to see if any local distinctions emerge. There's a lot of ways to make stylistic varations in Lojban; it's a very flexible language. You can lean more towards phrases made of gismu or towards lujvo. You can use more tanru or you can use more cmavo. You can speak in choppy sentences or longer ones. There's so many different possibilities in the grammar that you can make a distinctive style of speaking by emphasizing any of them. For instance in my novel in (slow) progress, la mafro'i, there are some crida who have a distinctive style of Lojban and one feature they emphasize is the form "lo lo lo broda ku brode ku brodi", like "mu'i ma do klama lo lo lo mafro'i ku crida ku tumla", why have you come to the land related to the spirits who are related to the magic rocks? mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.