From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCi6q_kBBoEWbNBrA@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 11 14:31:30 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OuXfR-0002lh-OR; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:29 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf752286wwe.16 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YDOraR1n3xyQq9DAaY2izjLHdLmeYekWhyC10/xcSE4=; b=BpSJ8Wf6UJmFJchn/zfn57/7fkwP/wjbevOj5c1SrypN8nk3twMpiMBZ5M6Z7+5JHE e++g5HJqeP9GIeLYqsalA6NSiHfJqPLbxR+Jy1vZhDtDuqRk78mQUSrCo7vkiFxD/ami fE2UvB7k4Mj6XwyTJgz6gBTDljrJyTVFjIWSg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=bDgpOe1iPnFZIAcz0FTnVv3xPteCPR4Xa7zgL+UHLbDNMu4uE0+Qz+iUdx68dPawOS T9lIi9XRxkukrSGDSPRxQ80SK/p/7TOK0bfe6h7OTWLo0l3o9MEXpt1/4JygBdRJgnOx JiG0G9ojRYl5c3qbeUA+UUQuZ5TiLLeV7ySW0= Received: by 10.216.145.167 with SMTP id p39mr308174wej.10.1284240674666; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.237.134 with SMTP id y6ls3824953weq.2.p; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.233.219 with SMTP id p69mr47655weq.1.1284240673744; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.233.219 with SMTP id p69mr47654weq.1.1284240673728; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com (mail-wy0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o46si1441808weq.10.2010.09.11.14.31.12; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.172; Received: by mail-wy0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 11so4394076wyi.3 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.185.133 with SMTP id u5mr2607730wem.11.1284240672328; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.22.199 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:31:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7a4fca9e-1da6-488e-b573-97050714db87@u5g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <201009111537.53075.jezuch@interia.pl> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:31:12 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Dialects From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6541b1e148b8604900295ef --0016e6541b1e148b8604900295ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 1. I don't think that using {ku} instead of {cu} is enough of a difference from the norm to be considered a dialect. That would mean that the Dot- Side convention would qualify as well. Being a proponent of the Dot-Side (see my sig.), I would not call it anything more than a convention. Equally I would not call {ku} vs {cu} anything more than a convention. 2. Naming it {lindarbau}, after yourself, sounds EXTREMELY prideful to me, especially since you are not, to my knowledge, the progenitor of the 'teach {ku} first' lesson style, and therefore not the originator of the {ku} vs. {cu} convention, although I do grant that you are it's most (only?) vocal proponent. And before you bring up {xorlo}, that name was not given to it by .xorxes., and .xorxes. is actually somewhat unhappy about it being called that. 3. This entire discussion has been given way too much time. You like using {ku} better. Good for you. I don't. BIG FUCKING DEAL. As long as you are understood, that's what matters. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it. fa'o -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e6541b1e148b8604900295ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1. I don't think that using {ku} instead of {cu} is enough of a differe= nce from the norm to be considered a dialect. That would mean that the Dot-=
Side convention would qualify as well. Being a proponent of the Dot-Sid= e (see my sig.), I would not call it anything more than a convention. Equal= ly I would not call {ku} vs {cu} anything more than a convention.

2. Naming it {lindarbau}, after yourself, sounds EXTREMELY prideful to = me, especially since you are not, to my knowledge, the progenitor of the &#= 39;teach {ku} first' lesson style, and therefore not the originator of = the {ku} vs. {cu} convention, although I do grant that you are it's mos= t (only?) vocal proponent. And before you bring up {xorlo}, that name was n= ot given to it by .xorxes., and .xorxes. is actually somewhat unhappy about= it being called that.

3. This entire discussion has been given way too much time. You like us= ing {ku} better. Good for you. I don't. BIG FUCKING DEAL. As long as yo= u are understood, that's what matters. As far as I'm concerned, tha= t's the end of it. fa'o

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