From lojban+bncCO2N0YfCFhCR0rDkBBoEamVLyw@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 11 18:13:08 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oub7s-0000HY-Jb; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:13:07 -0700 Received: by qwi4 with SMTP id 4sf3772684qwi.16 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:12:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ffrBc0BtvD7TemfDYKP/KmssppsFiicvewoTEDq2EPU=; b=tDAk+TFOnAIWa1TXdMgAKIX0Wdi+vnNQOH/pVRy6EQNTOWKQvnNNtPhSjgSY9etfkB /DAoZip9KDKoCPPwmNbAwk+cn/18dcOUTozxui4ze8vlzR6NtFD/2/zaHvxikPQdvpmY DWyHiWDapVpUcJLcQjvO28XDbBXfoTTLPhH1w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Zp281LvhZbaq36xLlP8+leCr54yyDPMz3SkOZn48juu6jMgjQywMAAhUmrhTADQyiv p40TqGabGgnkz4IcQnObphCZcx8o13wWkNuazD+yfz4/BYi5m0Sdi05NKQ4sXvjgodft BJCVZW/d7O6bck0TQPDDFKgZmT38BSBj8XhmQ= Received: by 10.229.43.218 with SMTP id x26mr72057qce.13.1284253969815; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:12:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.252.131 with SMTP id mw3ls90542qcb.1.p; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.222.19 with SMTP id ie19mr178446qcb.29.1284253969222; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.222.19 with SMTP id ie19mr178445qcb.29.1284253968917; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from li60-119.members.linode.com (li60-119.members.linode.com [97.107.130.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y27si2363319qce.6.2010.09.11.18.12.48; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) client-ip=97.107.130.119; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=[IPv6:::1]) by li60-119.members.linode.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Oub7g-0007PX-IF for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:12:48 +0000 Message-Id: From: Kevin Reid To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <20100912010225.GM13937@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [lojban] Technical, Help Request: What information *should* a Lojban dictionary system have? Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:12:48 -0400 References: <20100911215035.GG13937@digitalkingdom.org> <8B06025C-7DF2-4C4D-8336-07AAF1CC5C65@switchb.org> <20100912004044.GK13937@digitalkingdom.org> <640A6FE3-8AD3-44E9-B41E-779C7E03989D@switchb.org> <20100912010225.GM13937@digitalkingdom.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Original-Sender: kpreid@switchb.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) smtp.mail=kpreid@switchb.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Sep 11, 2010, at 21:02, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > I want to be able to generate *at least* a formal dictionary, > flashcards, simple definitions, and glossing, from one datasource, > easily, with the data source being as simple as possible. Aaaaaaah. I see now. Such as how smart.fm needed additional text to describe each place of a gismu. I think that this problem falls under NLP, because the text needed in each case is not *regular* (that is, related in a systematic way to the other cases). For example, I've tweaked the smart.fm definitions because the existing more-regular (though still hand-written) ones were misleading in English. (I don't think I kept notes on which ones I changed; the only example I remember was x2 of troci => "something tried", which is wrong but not a good example of the generic type of wrongness.) -- Kevin Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.