From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhC5n7HkBBoEyF5Wfw@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 11 20:58:00 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OudhU-0003Es-MW; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:58:00 -0700 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf823597wyb.16 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:57:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UHDhas0gG4xIKPUAu2M9sScYrUG4GqZDkdO3mCzjEZk=; b=hxic270/8WDOkbg/0pSP0tr5BeOukFsCAD+nbjl8y+LR0kLZG5bsrIddse70IPH7db uZOJymyIMuCBGBaQJyPAH6LH6Q6Dl+HO/uEwhusniRXzSjUVv1xKsdX3Yavn0DV8Px6d FfFvrmVpchUe0sYzFeL4kW5TeQqmPXOFpybto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=wHs1z0Bh3RLEIdwOtzuPYU45SPMpox95aFdDwxvXEWtIDySvboImNlijQnu6q/6fW7 rdxNFBMoE7QM71mqjdGUw5s5EV+oBhUTPR/G6yJWaqXWpUkRhiZFzi/ugXS4KJLMzTyk bkeLJiRuPs+Q72ZA/x2ZvGpXf3HTfSE6Z9UiM= Received: by 10.216.145.214 with SMTP id p64mr328077wej.27.1284263865217; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:57:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.97.105 with SMTP id k41ls45161wbn.3.p; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.17 with SMTP id y17mr141162wbt.24.1284263863786; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.17 with SMTP id y17mr141161wbt.24.1284263863749; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ey20si1655553wbb.2.2010.09.11.20.57.42; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.182; Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so5519626wyb.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:57:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.68.145 with SMTP id v17mr1990941wbi.159.1284263862568; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.22.199 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:57:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100911215035.GG13937@digitalkingdom.org> <8B06025C-7DF2-4C4D-8336-07AAF1CC5C65@switchb.org> <20100912004044.GK13937@digitalkingdom.org> <640A6FE3-8AD3-44E9-B41E-779C7E03989D@switchb.org> <20100912010225.GM13937@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:57:42 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Technical, Help Request: What information *should* a Lojban dictionary system have? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65a06ee538628049007fb6f --0016e65a06ee538628049007fb6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Kevin Reid wrote: > On Sep 11, 2010, at 21:02, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > I want to be able to generate *at least* a formal dictionary, >> flashcards, simple definitions, and glossing, from one datasource, >> easily, with the data source being as simple as possible. >> > > > Aaaaaaah. I see now. Such as how smart.fm needed additional text to > describe each place of a gismu. > > I think that this problem falls under NLP, because the text needed in each > case is not *regular* (that is, related in a systematic way to the other > cases). For example, I've tweaked the smart.fm definitions because the > existing more-regular (though still hand-written) ones were misleading in > English. (I don't think I kept notes on which ones I changed; the only > example I remember was x2 of troci => "something tried", which is wrong but > not a good example of the generic type of wrongness.) > > > -- > Kevin Reid > Well, there is a reason why I made the goal open access.. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Kevin Reid <kpreid@switchb.org<= /a>> wrote:
On Sep 11, 2010, at 21:02, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

I want to be able to generate *at least* a formal dictionary,
flashcards, simple definitions, and glossing, from one datasource,
easily, with the data source being as simple as possible.


Aaaaaaah. I see now. Such as how smart.fm needed additional text to describe each place of a gismu.<= br>
I think that this problem falls under NLP, because the text needed in each = case is not *regular* (that is, related in a systematic way to the other ca= ses). For example, I've tweaked the smart.fm definitions because the existing more-regular (tho= ugh still hand-written) ones were misleading in English. (I don't think= I kept notes on which ones I changed; the only example I remember was x2 o= f troci =3D> "something tried", which is wrong but not a good = example of the generic type of wrongness.)


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Well, there is a rea= son why I made the goal open access..

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko kl= ama le bende pe denpa bu

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