From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDI6LPkBBoEfgQhPw@googlegroups.com Sun Sep 12 08:40:16 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ouoex-0006sr-UZ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:40:15 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf366464pxi.16 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:39:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=tw/3APJJ+dHQxTQAEqxEljbrVdKZR3wHH5ubosHoDbo=; b=uol/ArxxyWjD+/6B7cNw5OscOrSRRKPyeGuhQPaErOnaDn2adLmABj5A6ayKCvpNGB yoG/EzZfbmrVUZOQ7wtPb054QnnjHJXcwYd/eExDr3mNc7V4pxpeEj0X3Yk7hHPp81Xx B5aUfAqgYmCsEjut4S+J5lPccw4BEi0/J2Koc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :message-id:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=lww3gcOaTojO7e90cTipxO46GhQN/h1ygNIp41liJv9L10O5MXkWj5yBmH4sf0DdLN uEeuBlVwtOD9qAXXdHeZG3OOEb5lWvnCjz3Cw5pnE96ysgmEvMDYF0hWZOeCjaFmnh5T 4oocsum95NFBWPew3mQveF2SKiGC3aKQ0RBAI= Received: by 10.142.247.9 with SMTP id u9mr91825wfh.36.1284305992256; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:39:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.10.2 with SMTP id 2ls5631024wfj.0.p; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.225.9 with SMTP id x9mr760014wfg.11.1284305991640; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.225.9 with SMTP id x9mr760013wfg.11.1284305991618; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k9si6181541wfa.1.2010.09.12.08.39.51; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=7XxDHnCWlq4Y+sW9Of4N9ZsPasVIcE/A4MgzccTTZFI= c=1 sm=0 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=Vt2AcnKqAAAA:8 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=t7gju1tXxnG0jBiHGZQA:9 a=2k9uOKYP2e4XS4g5Bn3AkijyUyQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Wgt1w0eYRjsA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:32798] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 69/AE-09356-544FC8C4; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:39:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB122156E7 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:39:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] cfipu vs. frinu Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:39:31 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009121139.33802.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline According to my recollection, the Book and the gimste disagreed on what "fi'u" is the rafsi of. The gimste says it's the rafsi of "cfipu", but the Book in chapter 18 implies that "frinu" has a short rafsi (I thought there was a word like "trefi'usnidu" in the refgram but I don't find it). Has the word disappeared in the recent editing of the Book? I asked about this a few years ago (http://www.mail-archive.com/lojban-beginners%40lojban.org/msg03653.html), but no one answered, probably because the subject of the email was irrelevant to the question. Pierre -- The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.