From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCKlvjjBBoE5Hm81Q@googlegroups.com Wed Sep 01 01:13:16 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OqiRT-0001ix-1F; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:13:16 -0700 Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26sf2409192wwf.16 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:13:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Jk1jc0UNViYAMNAJUzT8BWYjR2YLIBGF8KwOp2ghbfU=; b=6xxoNwwqhJtJgxeSu5CwdzudUH1aoj+jkJyscHYrqzQ4QLSabhe7M2sszTTkHb9MIc o/+th3jzUmkbyoVND9KTDIMGwXraVPNSRAD/LW9g9sTG35Bch7wN9/09H1Ye6JTpsXZT oFWk6jfhxmzF4KuaQrwDdAltCW0kbG8s5WDe8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=pF44xXBhCxSIicO+i6BFAgSrfBcG0uJ46n/8UvZzATf113hUOCHANTF3SsVbhg4l/7 Acs7L5G1o5Au3W1Y8trxLl8WucWCwvJKgialWngK//0eS1HyPW9CIuS7kghMKFZ3EW8W pR1pUpPq5Dxr0bmX2sG2CWVZC/0Fx5C2BgATQ= Received: by 10.216.145.97 with SMTP id o75mr1473167wej.16.1283328778538; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:12:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.82.133 with SMTP id b5ls2132597wbl.3.p; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.141.129 with SMTP id m1mr305874wbu.3.1283328777380; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.141.129 with SMTP id m1mr305873wbu.3.1283328777336; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com (mail-ww0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33si3620752wbs.5.2010.09.01.01.12.56; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.44; Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so1043289wwb.25 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:12:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.148 with SMTP id e20mr7630356wef.8.1283328776068; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.93.65 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Sep 2010 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 02:12:55 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] ma krinu lonu lo jbopre na tavla fo la.lojban. ne'i levi snustu | Why aren't we speaking in Lojban in here? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab0aed3e0e8048f2e43d8 --0016e6dab0aed3e0e8048f2e43d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I must be mistaken on where the error was, then. "xu cumki fa lo nu galfi lo jbovlaste vreji ba lo nu lo vreji cu zbasu .iki'u go go'i gi mi zbasu mu'i lo nu mi birti lo nu mi ba srera jmina" returns: "-------------------- SYNTAX ERROR IN TEXT -------------------- Misparsed token : go'i [GOhA] (line 1, col 81) Latest successfully parsed tokens : go [GA] (line 1, col 78) MARKER : PRIVATE_START_GEK ki'u [BAI] (line 1, col 73) MARKER : PRIVATE_START_BAI i [I] (line 1, col 72) zbasu [BRIVLA] (line 1, col 65) cu [CU] (line 1, col 62) vreji [BRIVLA] (line 1, col 56)" -------------------- On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > It does with jboski > > I put in {.i mi klama .i go go'i gi mi nelci} and it was happy as a clam. > Is this a bug in jboski. If it is I don't know why it would be. The CL= L > says that {go'i} is a shortcut for inserting (like a copy/paste) of the > previous selbri (and I've learned that the sumti that are left out are > inferred to be the same), so I don't know why it wouldn't be ok. {go bro= da > gi brodi} is the same thing as the second piece of {broda .i go go'i gi > brodi}. > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Luke Bergen wrot= e: >> >>> ok, now you're just full of crap and correcting everything you see. >>> >>> Q: xu do nelci >>> A: go'i >>> >>> This is correct, right? >>> >>> If so, then what is wrong with "xu cumki fa lo nu broda .i va'o go'i >>> brodi"? Maybe it should be "va'o lo nu go'i"? >>> >>> {go go'i gi ...} doesn't parse. >> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Jonathan Jones wrot= e: >>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Luke Bergen wr= ote: >>>> >>>>> xu cumki fa lo nu galfi lo jbovlaste vreji ba lo nu lo vreji cu zbasu >>>>> .iki'u go go'i gi mi zbasu mu'i lo nu mi birti lo nu mi ba srera jmin= a >>>>> >>>> >>>> .i lo'u go go'i gi le'u na gendra .i do djica lo'u go la'edi'u gi le'u >>>> .i mi krici lodu'u la'ede'u se cumki >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Jonathan Jones wr= ote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/8/31 Jorge Llamb=EDas >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Jonathan Jones >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > 2010/8/31 Jorge Llamb=EDas >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> .i e'u lu ko'a zdacne ko'e ko'i li'u mintu lu ko'a cenba lo ka >>>>>>> makau >>>>>>> >> zdani ce'u kei lo te frica be ko'e noi cnino zdani bei ko'i noi >>>>>>> >> tolni'o zdani li'u >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > .i mi nelci la'edi'u .i xu ko jmina ri lo jbovlaste >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .i na go'i .i vi'o nai .i mi lazni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .u'i >>>>>> >>>>>>> mu'o mi'e xorxes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>>>> >>>>>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> >>>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016e6dab0aed3e0e8048f2e43d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I must be mistaken on where the error was, then.

"xu cumki fa l= o nu galfi lo jbovlaste vreji ba lo nu lo vreji cu zbasu=20 .iki'u go go'i gi mi zbasu mu'i lo nu mi birti lo nu mi ba srer= a jmina" returns:
"-----------=
---------
SYNTAX ERROR IN TEXT
--------------------
Misparsed toke=
n :

  go'i [GOhA] (line 1, col 81)
Latest successfully parsed tokens :  go [GA] (line 1, col 78)
  MARKER : PRIVATE_START_GEK
  ki'u =
[BAI] (line 1, col 73)
  MARKER : PRIVATE_START_BAI
  i [I] (line 1, =
col 72)

  zbasu [BRIVLA] (line 1, col 65)
  cu [CU] (line 1, col 62)
  vreji =
[BRIVLA] (line 1, col 56)"
--------------------

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com= > wrote:
It does with jbos= ki

I put in {.i mi klama .i go go'i gi mi nelci} and= it was happy as a clam. =A0Is this a bug in jboski. =A0If it is I don'= t know why it would be. =A0The CLL says that {go'i} is a shortcut for i= nserting (like a copy/paste) of the previous selbri (and I've learned t= hat the sumti that are left out are inferred to be the same), so I don'= t know why it wouldn't be ok. =A0{go broda gi brodi} is the same thing = as =A0the second piece of {broda .i go go'i gi brodi}.


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Jonath= an Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Luke Berge= n <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
ok, now you're just full of crap and correcting everything you see.
Q: xu do nelci
A: go'i

This is correct, right?

If so, then what is wro= ng with "xu cumki fa lo nu broda .i va'o go'i brodi"? =A0= Maybe it should be "va'o lo nu go'i"?

{go go'i gi ...} doe= sn't parse.
=A0
On Tue, Aug = 31, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrot= e:
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Luke Berge= n <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
xu cumki fa lo nu galfi lo jbovlaste vreji ba lo nu lo vreji cu zbasu .iki&= #39;u go go'i gi mi zbasu mu'i lo nu mi birti lo nu mi ba srera jmi= na

.i lo'u go go'i gi le'u na ge= ndra .i do djica lo'u go la'edi'u gi le'u .i mi krici lodu&= #39;u la'ede'u se cumki
<= /div>

On Tue, Aug 3= 1, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote= :
=


2010/8/31 Jorge Lla= mb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/8/31 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
>>
>> .i e'u lu ko'a zdacne ko'e ko'i li'= u mintu lu ko'a cenba lo ka makau
>> zdani ce'u kei lo te frica be ko'e noi cnino zdani bei ko&= #39;i noi
>> tolni'o zdani li'u
>
> .i mi nelci la'edi'u .i xu ko jmina ri lo jbovlaste

.i na go'i .i vi'o nai .i mi lazni

.u'i
<= /div>
mu'o mi'e xorxes

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