From lojban+bncCICntNPQBRDshLbkBBoEzGfIag@googlegroups.com Sun Sep 12 18:46:42 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ouy7w-0005eD-Hb; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:46:42 -0700 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9sf3682141gxk.16 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:46:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3lT2b02LwsD21PDzihXuDpR0k8CRfEbXsWRA3LDYuNk=; b=d68bSZDIlcQpBPMJnjNSAbHZ2cB7qB1xa9ABYQgo9HvGimAfXDficrRKUQNWoAjki/ soW5m05+7PVJVnhOWEvH92GeFMaW2necEeLihdhx3xRbqGn9kRdfPuXR34utiEYjkqLz sGCnFrEa9Y7VExrMXg/fpFEF7xraxnE3kbN6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=JDwwTiJp37w8cM3MPxwBTmumxFRNhd45yvfuoGnMgdx/OhmGPIs8LzBIVL5zkUM2dV dIxcU0mOv6d3qp3Jsov2srZ2YbmMXK1G4HW6dgBLoPL2s6F6oUfa29evbrkbYICxdI5H mAMsO0nF9+uCgNOyqBZlGtWY7d60hs3mFxzNk= Received: by 10.91.42.38 with SMTP id u38mr346103agj.20.1284342380338; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:46:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.17.28 with SMTP id 28ls768914agq.6.p; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:46:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.216.3 with SMTP id t3mr351899agq.8.1284342379277; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by s24g2000pri.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:46:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 166.191.199.15 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.9,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: other-centric UI From: Lindar To: lojban X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I must express my disagreement with the idea that this works. {.i .ai mi dansu} does NOT mean "I intend to dance." It -does- mean "I dance." and you feel intent about it. Just like {.i .ui mi dansu} does not mean "I happily dance." It means "I dance." and that I am happy about it. UI are not substitutions for real brivla. If you hope for something, then you pacna, not a'o. If you intend to do something, then you zu'edji, not ai. If you're happy about something, then you gleki, not ui. Thank you. =D *takes a bow* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.