From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDR1rbkBBoEUYu2bA@googlegroups.com Sun Sep 12 21:41:16 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ov0qj-00013n-7b; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:41:16 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf411473pxi.16 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:40:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=opgrAt6zT61ZTpFricK21dC5d/TKYW0/S5S/+GhXU2M=; b=NKMClC9EzP9olqB7RsGX1dKFB3vx26T4zPLc7lbFcPeqvZwqkpqlVGBq0DNsBz/8J/ 7NtWBWHwGQhPgfGTGCUSiBP3myhivTee/re9hSsPej/miiHppjF3+E61f5DdiWFm5q2e LMSvd1UxWS/uBzPuFemkHjWFQk6CPlA0l3BSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=06UFWn0dyIPgIuFEFcwcOGcMQsfPMKTtQDmSgZJFEylG4RrEnWMnT+9GE6J2OxrBD+ hBtp4UKjuA4OhgvlZ5u61iKNX262dBMPXlfbr1jbam4agB0Wj8zvTRnqFRXjPFKWFZZh SAFHkW48bZ2GFViAcPu+6RG3AZ4pQs0FAnZF8= Received: by 10.115.81.14 with SMTP id i14mr188194wal.10.1284352849308; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:40:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.98.19 with SMTP id a19ls223579wam.1.p; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.127.10 with SMTP id z10mr872101wac.15.1284352848693; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.127.10 with SMTP id z10mr872098wac.15.1284352848667; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r11si6987400waj.4.2010.09.12.21.40.48; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Q1w7DWWvqld16GQoyB+sexBKp78BZiBYDPh1NDxPZyU= c=1 sm=0 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=ZjPSahWzYTAhP7aumAYA:9 a=52AsHUlx-WamWq1V9w0VFxWtzlwA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:38292] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 17/CB-00252-F4BAD8C4; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:40:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CDA6262 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:40:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] cfipu vs. frinu Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:40:29 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201009121139.33802.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009130040.32044.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 12 September 2010 20:48:20 Stela Selckiku wrote: > Hmm. I'd never heard of this confusion. For whatever it's worth, I'd > think it would be better for -fi'u- to belong to {cfipu}, as I've > never seen anyone want to make a lujvo with {frinu} but I've often > seen people say {mi selfi'u}. The rafsi of "frinu" is used for units of the form "X per Y", since the cmavo "fi'u" does not have a rafsi. The refgram states that the rafsi of "frinu" can be used when making a lujvo that includes fractional numbers. There are lots of "X per Y" units, though only one, "ki'orgratretrefrinynidysnidu", is in jbovlaste. There's also "misryfrinu", as in the expression "simsa lo nu plikanji fi lo la'ornacle'u lo misryfrinu kei lo ni nandu". I found it. It's in chapter 18 in the table headed "Number punctuation". Pierre -- The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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