From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCG1LjkBBoE41BFrw@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 13 06:41:47 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ov9Hw-0006T0-6k; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:46 -0700 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf1063314wyb.16 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wSvHOaPvSI8cqGZfRRVT6PGIrO4B46Dr3QzW0kRGxHE=; b=RPM6lSiHuEik/KAowQLzM9Ftgpc5/6kZ094gwy6tS2pcCOodgNiWu79tPNOhIdCNZ+ 9NDpCB+bkn6Sho75tjfgMY9WKqCYagMb9mOoEHAG/mbHDcidR0Lt1EXl2nle0aAFcoA6 frqJ+4E/lh+BA9wvc2PlRR4XRQqL/KcsXfY4o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e8PDgTl/Fn/HTmrmGp+Mrf/VCibUFyqMRz4P+0p724+BExVYe84kE25Tds+T6ZZJFU GVuyXe4cOi/loVJboQhfcQx70E65kLTOZHCX1FVhMqAkKEpfXLT91Y3B8Lh7wgrCicPu 7st5SdzYlT8szgzAhcLNDllINtu7r9217ohE8= Received: by 10.216.144.38 with SMTP id m38mr468205wej.14.1284385286831; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.92.203 with SMTP id s11ls3696382wbm.1.p; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.148.11 with SMTP id n11mr210105wbv.6.1284385285251; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.148.11 with SMTP id n11mr210103wbv.6.1284385285220; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f178.google.com (mail-wy0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o41si2099696weq.12.2010.09.13.06.41.24; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.178; Received: by wyb42 with SMTP id 42so7152567wyb.37 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.39.199 with SMTP id h7mr893857wbe.174.1284385283928; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.151.203 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:41:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:41:23 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] other-centric UI From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Stela Selckiku wrote= : > > Daniel and I have invented a cmavo to fill this gap: {da'oi}. =A0It's of > selma'o COI, and marks the UI to its left as being felt by the > experiencer that it tags. =A0For instance: > > la .daniel. joi mi pu finti zo da'oi .o'o nai sai da'oi so'i jbopre > noi na'e nelci lo nu za'e ma'orfi'i That seems like a useful blend of "dai" and "doi". I still think it's kind of empathetic: it is still you expressing something in the name of "so'i jbopre noi na'e nelci lo nu za'e ma'orfi'i". It's what you imagine they would express about this that you are expressing, not what they are actually expressing. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.