From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCM_LjkBBoEtB8YwA@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 13 08:07:22 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OvAcb-0005l8-DH; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:07:22 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf3999886gya.16 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:06:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=EQVt4zt1TWu6mdfvF7wtsqW1Xj9gmxTJaj2nJ5+ZqqA=; b=3ad+hKXY/RnUiPuMAvWevzAlxkqMgzScZYF9Y2rxWvaS2+5ds1FBA5P5RGL7fSExf8 eq2AOBb5LN1Xvd4DNKmQfLl+mlXMTaMzr8Pndo9IvYC4UhTiFUJDsP9amKAXsu3/BZBq Cb0x8wFsOtbhoQpc//jOVsq8RI77E0N999rEg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=pnkWBiDW7QZp4UI+2K0sZ0wngK+hn+Fib04b6z4vN4m7NdR1haiezjk5kraeIecS0t ZXUs3q2KHNsjZ7aLC3vsR9xPybWo3UK6T/nykMHTdp4hIZAaD4QCdCAopfdt7fAdTeUE Yoxs5iXrQMmjW+BGvFGfVoiDOAU17TcR6kGLk= Received: by 10.101.62.20 with SMTP id p20mr118655ank.18.1284390412935; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:06:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.194.29 with SMTP id w29ls4016408anp.1.p; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.45.4 with SMTP id s4mr3716528ans.46.1284390412321; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.45.4 with SMTP id s4mr3716527ans.46.1284390412271; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f52.google.com (mail-gw0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b25si5976872anb.0.2010.09.13.08.06.51; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.52; Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so2523911gwj.25 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:06:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.138.1 with SMTP id l1mr302809ybd.381.1284390411061; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.206.20 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:06:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:06:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] ma krinu lonu lo jbopre na tavla fo la.lojban. ne'i levi snustu | Why aren't we speaking in Lojban in here? From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3107e344b570490257219 --000e0cd3107e344b570490257219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .oicairo'e lu setese li'u .i mu'i ma do cusku lo tcetce pluja valsi .i mi nitcu lo nu ciska lo simsa be zoi .bla x1 frati x2 x3 .bla .ije linji tepixra tezu'e lo nu mi djuno lo sumti .yyy cnici to ma valsi toi I know I messed that up so bau glico: ouch my head at "setese". Why would you say such complicated words. I needed to write "x1 frati x2 x3" and draw lines to understand the argument order. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Stela Selckiku wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> >> >> I think the problem is not just that there's few people who speak >> proficiently, but also that the people who can speak are at all >> different levels of fluency. There are a very few people who can >> manage complicated conversations on a wide variety of topics: Gejyspa, >> Xorxes, Pierre, etc. >> > > do pukta'a mi .i ku'i lo du'u go'o cu mukti lo nu mi na pu spuda lo vi nu > casnu .i mi setese frati lo nu clani lojbo bo selsku kei lo simsa be lo me > do mei be'o noi se skicu fo zoi gy. "Oh great, a conversation in Lojban! > Oh my, an entire complicated paragraph in Lojban. Oh god,my head, it > hurts!" gy. to ko zgana lo nu lo stedu be mi cu spoja toi .i mi nitcu lo nu > jdice lo du'u mutce frili fa lo nu tcidu le lojbo kei ji kau lo nu tcidu lo > drata selmri .i mi nitcu lo za'i lo besna be mi cu klina pe'a kei .e lo za'i > mi mulno cikna je jundi .i la'a cu'i mi nitcu tu'a lo kafxu'i .i va'o lo nu > ro lo tcini cu prane kei mi tcidu lo lojbo > > ni'o mi kakne lo nu cusku bau la lojban sekai lo ka milxe filsmu .e lo ka > frili .iku'i lo nu tcidu na roroi frili mi > > --gejyspa > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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I know I messed that up so bau glico:
ouch my head= at "setese". =A0Why would you say such complicated words. =A0I n= eeded to write "x1 frati x2 x3" and draw lines to understand the = argument order.

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Michael Tu= rniansky <mtu= rniansky@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 5:11 AM= , Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

I think the problem is not just that th= ere's few people who speak
proficiently, but also that the people who can speak are at all
differen= t levels of fluency. =A0There are a very few people who can
manage compl= icated conversations on a wide variety of topics: Gejyspa,
Xorxes, Pierr= e, etc.
=A0
do pukta'a mi .i ku'i lo du'u go'o cu mukti lo nu mi n= a pu=A0 spuda lo vi nu casnu .i mi setese frati lo nu clani lojbo bo=A0 sel= sku=A0 kei lo simsa be lo me do mei be'o noi se skicu fo zoi gy.=A0 &qu= ot;Oh great, a conversation in Lojban!=A0 Oh my, an entire complicated para= graph in Lojban.=A0 Oh god,my head, it hurts!" gy. to ko zgana lo nu l= o stedu be mi cu spoja toi .i mi nitcu lo nu jdice lo du'u mutce frili = fa lo nu tcidu le lojbo kei ji kau lo nu tcidu lo drata selmri .i mi nitcu = lo za'i lo besna be mi cu klina pe'a kei .e lo za'i mi mulno ci= kna je jundi .i la'a cu'i mi nitcu tu'a lo kafxu'i .i va= 9;o lo nu ro lo tcini cu prane kei mi tcidu lo lojbo=A0=A0
=A0
ni'o mi kakne lo nu cusku bau la lojban sekai lo ka milxe filsmu .= e lo ka frili .iku'i lo nu tcidu na roroi frili mi
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa
=A0

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