From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDUzrzkBBoEpdXnBQ@googlegroups.com Tue Sep 14 00:42:28 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OvQ9o-0002Na-FG; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:28 -0700 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf1286042wyb.16 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jgFd89iU65L5JkROb7lsJ9DAHwxcHorzhzJxpulz9fs=; b=ffKniapToK5IIams2BXykBoBZTjBsvct4XCQxA1SvShwDNk2Nit9YWYmdGgkgtTigK LkFiw9SjoGGbGACH4JC6ttSi4nyE7autc3oVSzm7QQRAVGplXvP6QdHxcaig9PV63Syv 1HQn0/gvhu39el19GO74uR1tn9Mqr7DmjG5Sg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=G5XFkjdGR2MmVmg6/okLawmMAo7h67iJAfKujjN7MyfgN5KfYvHww9VvaXssymiWEP 1PlqtQ18UuMIx4c1O+d39VdQc02XFamC32QymwWm4FFv5UVNDl3OlVuEkI8QwS6yoXMp YXf4ChlMbgD1oOD9C8DIYlaf1g7fheWJw52vQ= Received: by 10.216.145.214 with SMTP id p64mr723888wej.12.1284450132005; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.139.159 with SMTP id e31ls3950138wbu.0.p; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.127.146 with SMTP id g18mr265444wbs.10.1284450130767; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.127.146 with SMTP id g18mr265443wbs.10.1284450130734; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f45.google.com (mail-ww0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ey20si2688220wbb.6.2010.09.14.00.42.09; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.45; Received: by mail-ww0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 18so6478038wwi.26 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.138.147 with SMTP id a19mr2985452wbu.93.1284450129533; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.22.199 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:42:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <729457.38076.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C8DF3A5.3040702@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:42:09 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: other-centric UI From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363ba20ab3dd34049033590c --0016363ba20ab3dd34049033590c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Stela Selckiku wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Lindar wrote: > > > > By the way, I like da'oi a lot. So it's {.uuda'oi .selkik.} for if I > > feel pity toward selkik? > > I'm using that! > > No, that's if I feel pity. If you're the one pitying me then you'd say: > > la .selkik. .uu da'oi .lindar. cu co'e > Selkik, pitied by Lindar, does something. > > More examples: > > lo verba .ui da'oi mamta cu kelci > Mom's happy that the kid plays. > > do finti lo melbi .o'a da'oi do > You made something beautiful, you must be proud. > > lo mlatu cu citka lo kukte .oi da'oi cipni > The cat eats something delicious, which is painful to the bird. > > mi'e la stela selckiku > mu'o > > I find that usage very strange, seeing as normally UI attaches to the preceding valsi. mi nelci lonu do cusku.uicai bau lo lojbau I like you speaking (<- Hooray!) in Lojban. I would've expected, for example, {do.o'ada'oi fintu lo melbi}. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Stela Selckiku= <selckiku@gmail= .com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> By the way, I like da'oi a lot. So it's {.uuda'oi .selkik.= } for if I
> feel pity toward selkik?
> I'm using that!

No, that's if I feel pity. =A0If you're the one pitying me th= en you'd say:

la .selkik. .uu da'oi .lindar. cu co'e
Selkik, pitied by Lindar, does something.

More examples:

lo verba .ui da'oi mamta cu kelci
Mom's happy that the kid plays.

do finti lo melbi .o'a da'oi do
You made something beautiful, you must be proud.

lo mlatu cu citka lo kukte .oi da'oi cipni
The cat eats something delicious, which is painful to the bird.

mi'e la stela selckiku
mu'o

I find that usage very strange, seeing as norm= ally UI attaches to the preceding valsi.

mi nelci lonu do cusku.uica= i bau lo lojbau

I like you speaking (<- Hooray!) in Lojban.

I would've expected, for example, {do.o'ada'oi fintu lo mel= bi}.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'= ;o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu

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