From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRC6o7_kBBoEtIbsZw@googlegroups.com Tue Sep 14 12:49:32 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OvbVP-0003bO-GG; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:32 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf1438532wwe.16 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kvnt/xNSk64k9XwsjUYmDb4tl1SYF7jV0cB6PORd5Dw=; b=CSDWhGNKyS5stijXgzQ0vLPzu6774vheBbzghlacwpqpFXq4GXD58L2t0rraKrfZPE XIu762jCva8L/KEZ+9WHwiqVsBTCo9PYCjSM/SzL4Rn5wKAlm9C5mMY1jFs3p+q5v4VW 68/Te2Vx5pYJVwG0FcoBOat1DC/MEQNR6OvRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=2QgGcY7V5OzLoHsM0/2sY1SDymRbx97Aat9uu464gJDHfTd/io0vq7TQoH7wBQIFGv OrQXnSJRnDkWe2xz/CqIPYrKtOSL2dAeFX00ZWn/ty09M0fo+X13BAhJ8QujErfX6BBs RtbuRbQZmoU/bDzQ5YfRlk5yZwuCAkiBQDc3U= Received: by 10.216.144.38 with SMTP id m38mr164635wej.29.1284493754973; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.237.134 with SMTP id y6ls149180weq.2.p; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.30.129 with SMTP id k1mr25787wea.6.1284493754087; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.30.129 with SMTP id k1mr25786wea.6.1284493754067; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com (mail-ww0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v4si184724weq.9.2010.09.14.12.49.12; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.49; Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so8569020wwb.30 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.72.149 with SMTP id m21mr317973wbj.186.1284493752731; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.151.203 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:49:12 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "ge ... gi ..." question From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > A little while back I saw xorxes say: > {lo prije lo bebna cu simsa lo ka ro roi tolcri ge lo se junri lo se xalb= o > gi lo se xalbo lo se junri}. > I thought this usage of ge gi to get reciprocity was really cool but for > some reason it seems like jboski doesn't like it. =A0xorxes, is this a bu= g in > your (beautiful) bridi or in jboski? Didn't you read the following sentence? It was something like "to .ei zo nu'i mrobi'o toi" jboski will probably be happy with: "lo prije lo bebna cu simsa lo ka ro roi tolcri nu'i ge lo se junri lo se xalbo gi lo se xalbo lo se junri". > Followup question which assumes that this is fine and jboski is confused. > =A0How would I express the next sumti after the ge... gi... =A0for exampl= e, if I > want to say {broda ge lo brode lo brodi gi lo brodi lo brode terminator> [fo] brodi} where {brodi} fills the fourth place, how do I st= op > it from getting sucked up into the {gi}. There's no terminator. You just have to have the same number of terms for each conjunct. The next term will not be a part of the conjunct. (Or, the terminator is "nu'u" if you used "nu'i".) > Also, if I want the=A0reciprocal=A0sumti to be x1 and x2 would I say {bro= da fa > ge lo brode lo brodi gi lo brodi lo brode} or {broda ge fa lo brode lo br= odi > gi fa lo brodi lo brode}? =A0Or are either acceptable? Only the latter. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.