From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCYwojkBBoEf0a-kQ@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 04 03:36:28 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Orq6h-0001GC-HP; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:36:27 -0700 Received: by pwi3 with SMTP id 3sf154107pwi.16 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:36:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=UnwJeViSJL+xYWZhJzgtbyg/EhPVGyASTL3O1vt4QJw=; b=DDgd7DNrxt3UmyuItr5zuAWGde3tV+O7+aRw98xirVnok4o1CsumA3nuBGHq4+OaC4 HSOrzfqPe/M6FYzG2AJYmenA9x3Yk6ap8XVzscVrIUjJVn99Zu1O1B4A+M9TO5CtNi1P uxAbmYU7GQklxxoT+mZgQV2bRcVhZxhHrUf00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=Wu4tfbA8It5PiFm/V3z6c+Se4Cc2SArZNXD86phsNC6Z5CHtpOZygbB8OVrh4Lb3oU bszcXhSQ8GD4TIpfwavDz+D6eiP9GHZlgA9Xdx+IxROluEZmQpFrg1X77iD6BkV4nDvO CFPQ/DHW34X2rpveCqXuAcpFdf2iSb+9l9XZ0= Received: by 10.142.247.9 with SMTP id u9mr10885wfh.11.1283596568971; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:36:08 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls190843wff.3.p; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.81.21 with SMTP id e21mr75321wfb.16.1283596568091; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.81.21 with SMTP id e21mr75320wfb.16.1283596568060; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k9si398373wfa.5.2010.09.04.03.36.07; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=I9jNt1nxKTH53gD05GkuyPyKRWwkJ+Ycr7TuPR2ubTA= c=1 sm=0 a=qk8G5I-QGekA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=U_dSsD3FJD-yEmNo3UoA:9 a=Tq8V04GPv742t5r70qur3UXA6zEA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:34823] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 48/49-06064-511228C4; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 10:36:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F8ECA39 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 06:36:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] .i ki'u lo cribe mi na sipna Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 06:36:01 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <022fd822-ce8f-4d77-84c5-f828612bb81f@x42g2000yqx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <022fd822-ce8f-4d77-84c5-f828612bb81f@x42g2000yqx.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009040636.04176.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 04 September 2010 03:32:35 tomoj wrote: > We can use a periphrasis like {.i ma krinu lo nu na ...}, or simply > use {na'e} if it's appropriate. Are there any other nice ways around > this? You can also say "ki'u ma naku ...". "naku" negates the part of the bridi after it, with the selbri considered to be at the end. Pierre -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.