From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDw9MjkBBoEiyJ6dg@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 16 08:41:05 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwGZp-0003uq-FZ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:41:05 -0700 Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40sf208931wyb.16 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:40:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ftmZRIoQheKoxXirj9ADdwm2q088zSIOmW0YnUCqeJM=; b=pm+PEp0dydFwEngZGRevjjqbHptYJ3e3/Av4b1I/MupS2nL3UgbeM3mz46M7+xR7Bq eJLHX43kGhEY9c+cA+7/cEB7qmekJfadM9yYMhyuyJQHh811Z94o2GpE6gQEgI2CTVNk wDoBmgQytrNq1OeVqDJzWf7Qk6WmBL6y0P5Ms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=GNhBGIlF9XYg0+HVBfq8ElExRRbtkL2oUjcNvYFWnQvFCa0CudD0im/2uAs2XaHH/C ug9vUT4UVEttx/lsxc7bMbQsdahK31s0naTSZlhnlQbODlZKWbyEnOnHYhz8k1eBC7kB BlwcJeRV5nkArFvHDmQ2st7QBdoqo5569+riY= Received: by 10.216.145.130 with SMTP id p2mr792855wej.22.1284651632792; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:40:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.242.202 with SMTP id i52ls1033305wer.0.p; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.233.219 with SMTP id p69mr404675weq.1.1284651627709; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.233.219 with SMTP id p69mr404674weq.1.1284651627693; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com (mail-wy0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x37si995676weq.0.2010.09.16.08.40.26; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.172; Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so2206945wyi.17 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:40:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.155.139 with SMTP id s11mr2870000wbw.221.1284651626512; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.151.203 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:40:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <729457.38076.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C8DF3A5.3040702@lojban.org> <898077.40849.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:40:26 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: other-centric UI From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > > Yeah, I see no problem with "da'oi" working like that, but it does > mean it can't correspond to "pe'i la'a lo roknau cinmo lo ka cortu", > since I'm pretty sure the statue feels no such thing. You wouldn't "pe'i ro'e" it but you might "pe'i ro'o" it. In any case it's a lose paraphrase, not a strict equivalence, and it might need adjustement in particular cases. > Similarly, I'm > pretty sure I can .ui da'oi a dead guy, .ue da'oi somebody who hasn't > heard the news yet, and .o'a da'oi a fictional character who doesn't > exist in the same world as I do. I think we have the same understanding of it, but I don't speak for the inventors of "da'oi". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.