From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEOGdz-QEGgSWeYmq@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 17 13:26:38 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwhVl-0003QI-LS; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:26:38 -0700 Received: by pwj6 with SMTP id 6sf308068pwj.16 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:26:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=25vuZ32HA5P13A929utDpPXv2XQ/yukp/Syaaj4dPyA=; b=ZHUWiqO+QFawQow7guqcdKDcoyWJSfe/wMaVM3jIYNakcWllTX6bT5QfUWBU0jZxm3 TZEkgu8lKHKVHxhWGXyPz/RleZIxRFnLbnK0j+Fy1t1yrNUullnpqGORSlKzXd5pirYw 6jv1D/wfsTqLIwi8+iLIYUbtWKr0NKUyUp1CY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=tGNaKDXfC662uF2Y6dz9vO2+yhYpkwPD3n1T4wv8dmlY+eYvstkHI2OvJyDr+u6+YG oyjnmOYzfX4OT36SiklzWiJt7/TfV1R/+iUYh13dbC3ZhqJI2ppiYDHNHMb+zUjax3k4 JjClpvs3i7+4stE+Q1IZTzxf931zSxh/2FYtQ= Received: by 10.115.66.26 with SMTP id t26mr454041wak.3.1284755169923; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:26:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.67.12 with SMTP id u12ls3690350wak.3.p; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.183.11 with SMTP id g11mr1325628waf.4.1284755169196; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.183.11 with SMTP id g11mr1325626waf.4.1284755169159; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (chain.digitalkingdom.org [64.81.66.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k37si5326597wae.6.2010.09.17.13.26.09; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 64.81.66.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.81.66.169; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwhVX-0003PA-UX for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:26:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:26:07 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Parsers ("ge ... gi ..." question) Message-ID: <20100917202607.GK13937@digitalkingdom.org> References: <201009171759.09275.jezuch@interia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201009171759.09275.jezuch@interia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 64.81.66.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 05:59:04PM +0200, Krzysztof Sobolewski wrote: > Dnia =B6roda, 15 wrze=B6nia 2010 o 00:54:19 Jonathan Jones napisa=B3(a): > > Okay, what is the best working parser we have right now? >=20 > I'm also interested in this. Anybody knows? Define "best". The official parser is, well, most official; http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DOfficial+Parser camxes is, in many people's eyes, the best encoding of actual Lojban as it is used/spoken (the "ku joi" problem, for example, is largely considered a wart, not a true part of the language). http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3Dcamxes jbofihe does glossing, but has a number of significant bugs in how it handles the language http://www.rc0.org.uk/jbofihe/ There are no other parsers I'm aware of. LogGloss is just a wrapper on camxes as far as I know, but it may be using the PEG directly; I don't know, I've never looked at or used it. Someone should ask Chris to fix his server, or come find me and we can talk about hosting. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.