From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhD178_kBBoEha_DSA@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 17 16:21:41 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwkFN-00064w-CV; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:41 -0700 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7sf272928pzk.16 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:mime-version :received:received:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ilMcwKGbxBksneEp5yXHAY90nJVvVmjTzKDjUxatfHk=; b=RWkX2TyGYHMl1H13fM8+G8npP7mop7lSYXDKnYaCNPaKqZIGUGNscC3CUqc4IIFNKs Xcg7XxH0BAFh9MyPFPW3My1CrxZ0Ytk67GsnalWWzMgbm/ytkOwY3TBf6J6luiee4sCi JIu1CBtM2Th8D/jSwUCMLcH0pv1x6ceKk0g0k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=RvgHH8L7YCRrP9skxvrc7k4VzrnGiJj+2rXLNoIH4o3KOaS8U0TBUHkZFJEreko71U MqFiELNshQi+olWEDloofUvBkd0Ulap84m7FwUko04Vz7GnVEdFrQIabrDy987oD8YIe L6LGOAY+zSW432f9dk93/S2Hf+MCiUOBMrD+U= Received: by 10.115.39.8 with SMTP id r8mr464864waj.4.1284765685409; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.66.21 with SMTP id t21ls3805964wak.2.p; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.122.13 with SMTP id u13mr1195015wac.25.1284765684379; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.122.13 with SMTP id u13mr1195014wac.25.1284765684323; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (chain.digitalkingdom.org [64.81.66.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k37si5512796wae.6.2010.09.17.16.21.23; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 64.81.66.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.81.66.169; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwkF7-00064i-QK for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:22 -0700 Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwkF2-00064T-W3 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:21 -0700 Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so2962950iwn.40 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.10.135 with SMTP id p7mr5762987ibp.88.1284765675955; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.133 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:21:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Chris Capel and LojGloss From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 64.81.66.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221532cf44bc257b04907cd13e --00221532cf44bc257b04907cd13e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This right here is the last post by Chris I found in the lists: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Chris Capel wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 01:29, wrote: > >> In a message dated 7/8/2009 23:53:28 Eastern Daylight Time, > >> pdf23ds@gmail.com writes: > >> > >> > >> Jbofi'e's often nonexistent error messages are extremely frustrating, > >> to be sure. Lojgloss should never have that. (It does happen > >> sometimes, but those are always bugs that are usually pretty simple to > >> fix.) > >> > >> So I'm wondering how many of you would be satisfied with (A) simply > >> knowing how far into the parsed text the parser got (the more advanced > >> students of Lojban, I assume), i.e. *where* the error happened, and > >> how many of you would like to (B) have more detail, in the form of a > >> somewhat cryptic tree of parsing information that can potentially > >> assist you, but might require a bit of puzzling over. Please vote at > >> http://www.micropoll.com/akira/mpview/622722-182488 > >> > >> BTW, I'm looking into permanent external hosting for Lojgloss, which > >> is currently run from my home machine, and currently down (because of > >> my mabla ISP). > > > > > > Is it possible to have both? jbofi'e for one and Lojgloss for the other? > > Or are you asking about replacing one with the other? > > What I'm asking is whether I should bother making the detailed error > messages in Lojgloss, or just settle for the basic ones. There will > always be jbofi'e, of course. (Though I am to replace it in practice.) > > Chris > -- > "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it > like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" > -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00221532cf44bc257b04907cd13e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This right here is the last post by Chris I found in the lists:

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
<= div class=3D"h5">On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 01:29, <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>> In a message dated 7/8/2009 23:53:28 Eastern Daylight Time,
>> pdf23ds@gmail.com writes:=
>>
>>
>> Jbofi'e's often nonexistent error messages are extremely f= rustrating,
>> to be sure. Lojgloss should never have that. (It does happen
>> sometimes, but those are always bugs that are usually pretty simpl= e to
>> fix.)
>>
>> So I'm wondering how many of you would be satisfied with (A) s= imply
>> knowing how far into the parsed text the parser got (the more adva= nced
>> students of Lojban, I assume), i.e. *where* the error happened, an= d
>> how many of you would like to (B) have more detail, in the form of= a
>> somewhat cryptic tree of parsing information that can potentially<= br> >> assist you, but might require a bit of puzzling over. Please vote = at
>> http://www.micropoll.com/akira/mpview/622722-182488
>>
>> BTW, I'm looking into permanent external hosting for Lojgloss,= which
>> is currently run from my home machine, and currently down (because= of
>> my mabla ISP).
>
>
> Is it possible to have both? =A0jbofi'e for one and Lojgloss for t= he other?
> =A0Or are you asking about replacing one with the other?

What I'm asking is whether I should bother making the detai= led error
messages in Lojgloss, or just settle for the basic ones. There will
always be jbofi'e, of course. (Though I am to replace it in practice.)<= br>
Chris
--
"What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it=
like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet)


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