From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhD6_uPkBBoEOvobLg@googlegroups.com Tue Sep 21 11:55:08 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy7za-00046F-Rl; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:55:07 -0700 Received: by pwj6 with SMTP id 6sf689603pwj.16 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:54:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=N8DR6r38jqM4gdlpPSZQPalc/l7IZ5TC4aESmUUzGjI=; b=5/S6g1tiH351H4TRuZ7gizMm/l8HeP4F0t5Ihl9xxqxZF0i9V0y8YrCskBYeJPtU62 BdtxOxFmitBBj7gu03brdXShfOPXdcALKr2wOUrPNk0bHCElH7Z+x1grcvvQEtYLjqOH K5rHEi7PiweOjamOgDgxUq1HrXk5IH1zcTxEI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=5ZrwRkGVUZeVJjsjky//icVe1Cy7pdD3u7rYkkDjm+jIAujzQmgqsWmErKOckzjk8h AqcoP2KxL/xQUw9HMyJcV5EgHhU9K/lcVNtkzMJUjdhgOBMuPXz7KEROG+9LHrYrRDdO YNAznBVjImcoH9WFu1HkBiYpdj+1+WxwkrQ4c= Received: by 10.115.100.20 with SMTP id c20mr877888wam.9.1285095290981; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:54:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.85.40 with SMTP id n40ls7483804wal.0.p; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.14.6 with SMTP id r6mr2183569wai.7.1285095290287; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.14.6 with SMTP id r6mr2183568wai.7.1285095290259; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com (mail-pw0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k37si11441933wae.6.2010.09.21.11.54.49; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.53; Received: by pwj9 with SMTP id 9so1796351pwj.12 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:54:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.33.1 with SMTP id l1mr9480614wfj.249.1285095289028; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.191.134 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:54:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201009130922.32767.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:54:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: le virnu smani blozeile'a From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0af043482390490c99032 --001636e0af043482390490c99032 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't see that anyone directly answered your question, Luke. "zo broda" is not necessarily a name, but the point is that the x1 of "cmene" IS a word/quoted string, which is the name of the x2. (x1 is a label by which x2 is called by x3) --gejyspa On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > Sorry, I meant to ask if {zo broda} makes the assertion that {broda} is a > name? I don't think it does (that would be la, la'o, or la'oi). > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Monday 13 September 2010 09:01:43 Luke Bergen wrote: >> > I thought {zo broda} was a shortcut for {lu broda li'u}. Does this >> produce >> > a name? I thought it was just a quoted piece of text and to name >> something >> > you use {la}, {la'o} and/or {la'oi} depending on the lojbanicity of the >> > named thing. >> >> zo .modix. cmene le blozeile'a .i zo .modix. cmene la modix .i ko'a du le >> blozeile'a beme'e zo .modix .i ko'a du la modix. noi blozeile'a >> >> mu'omi'e .pier. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --001636e0af043482390490c99032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0=A0 I don't see that anyone directly answered your question, Lu= ke.=A0 "zo broda" is not necessarily a name, but the point is tha= t the x1 of "cmene" IS a word/quoted string, which is the name of= the x2.=A0 (x1 is a label by which x2 is called by x3)
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On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gma= il.com> wrote:
Sorry, I meant to ask if {zo bro= da} makes the assertion that {broda} is a name? =A0I don't think it doe= s (that would be la, la'o, or la'oi).=20


On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Monday 13 September 2010 09:01:43 Luke Bergen wrote:
> I thou= ght {zo broda} was a shortcut for {lu broda li'u}. =A0Does this produce=
> a name? =A0I thought it was just a quoted piece of text and to nam= e something
> you use {la}, {la'o} and/or {la'oi} depending on the lojbanici= ty of the
> named thing.

zo .modix. cmene le blozeile= 9;a .i zo .modix. cmene la modix .i ko'a du le
blozeile'a beme&#= 39;e zo .modix .i ko'a du la modix. noi blozeile'a

mu'omi'e .pier.
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