From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDfg-vkBBoEoM-urQ@googlegroups.com Wed Sep 22 19:56:49 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OybzI-0000dx-P7; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:48 -0700 Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17sf291619fxm.16 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+wEI64Hji5IRanlTxM4AbsDEL3/8QJI5i53rvd/wr/A=; b=EL03lTyUUeLn00woYtVAS2JDnEJ8/f6V443ZbHP9jn2Ad1tecRaFU7qT9qSORfP5Ws bbwwKh7RZb4jFGOPBgSeQn4I8A61q19f8RXTKtw6nsaveylrjHkXS2/S2w3pfB/FWNDQ JPAMHA8YoEMwjDTqCZ54wPwHMpUfUdpRL9ReA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=lL8ESwRUd7/4wHNGrkh7f4EZ53BtOfWxMf8Y8QqT2FX0pL0GdRtmXRMIqlYbzZikQ6 HY0UDorZgT76URv32hvVV9eu42IzZYdG5+ZQxgQfkyrK0D5P5DxPlb3osf/Uz+crm1uz NAkldEx6y/lb9f9amW+6k5MO7gJmzh8an37Vw= Received: by 10.223.91.65 with SMTP id l1mr91671fam.43.1285210591754; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.26.6 with SMTP id b6ls205274fac.1.p; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.108.202 with SMTP id g10mr104596fap.23.1285210590913; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.108.202 with SMTP id g10mr104595fap.23.1285210590855; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f42.google.com (mail-bw0-f42.google.com [209.85.214.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r21si68817fam.4.2010.09.22.19.56.29; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.42; Received: by mail-bw0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 7so1796721bwz.1 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.146.153 with SMTP id h25mr714223bkv.86.1285210589091; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.153.219 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:56:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009222225.05058.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201009222225.05058.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:56:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] brabaktu From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517477f7c9fd8ec0490e468fb --001517477f7c9fd8ec0490e468fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm, is there really a need for a location when we have stuzi, diklo, etc..= . for instance, {dinju} seems like it is similar to limli'a in how important it's location is, and {dinju} does not have a place for "located at". Liking all the rest of your suggestions, I come up with: la1 is a pool where li1 swims in fluid li2 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 22 September 2010 17:14:49 Luke Bergen wrote: > > well, as long as I'm on lojban main instead of jbovlaste, what do you > guys > > think a good definition would be? > > > > I'm thinking something like: > > x1=3Dla1 is a pool with fluid-contents x2=3Dli2 in container/surrounded= by > > x3=3Dla2 with swimmers x4=3Dli1 > > la2 is the location, not the material. The fluid is normally water, so th= at > can be put last. So I suggest > la1 is a pool at location la2 where li1 swims in fluid li2. > > On Wednesday 22 September 2010 16:58:32 Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Who came up with {brabaktu}? That's a horrible lujvo. > > Arnt Richard Johansen entered it. That may not mean that he invented it. > > Pierre > -- > La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. > Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --001517477f7c9fd8ec0490e468fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm, is there really a need for a location when we have stuzi, diklo, etc..= . for instance, {dinju} seems like it is similar to limli'a in how impo= rtant it's location is, and {dinju} does not have a place for "loc= ated at".

Liking all the rest of your suggestions, I come up with:

la1 is a pool where li1 swims in fluid li2

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu<= /a>> wrote:
On Wednesday 22 September= 2010 17:14:49 Luke Bergen wrote:
> well, as long as I'm on lojban main instead of jbovlaste, what do = you guys
> think a good definition would be?
>
> I'm thinking something like:
> x1=3Dla1 is a pool with fluid-contents x2=3Dli2 in container/surrounde= d by
> x3=3Dla2 with swimmers x4=3Dli1

la2 is the location, not the material. The fluid is normally water, s= o that
can be put last. So I suggest
la1 is a pool at location la2 where li1 swims in fluid li2.

On Wednesday 22 September 2010 16:58:32 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> Who came up with {brabaktu}? That's a horrible lujvo.

Arnt Richard Johansen entered it. That may not mean that he invented = it.

Pierre
--
La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

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