From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEOvk7uQEGgSQBnhP@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 23 13:03:13 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oys0X-0001Q6-J2; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:03:13 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf715747pxi.16 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:02:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=p5qPGA4vHzUichJP4WpAGvMe6DptNlH/L0y8+vATdfg=; b=tbTsxF2O2366jxWhWaKCRgv4tw5Mqut5kNDQUoeooDG7AjjbpUmTLQRTTMXGmApprE Bry1zvtgu74iPZA7vWCeVWQGbivwOcBbTQqkbK6o+p8iv6ADREnDlGeMl7QoxkHzgEji w/zgT5xD2fHigcVuDNexCwVnFZk3hg5l3Tluw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=ORZS28XkVM4gZtbiUFIWPlxDW+F6g7ygWUZtklvX1PXu+ryZjm1VddLGC3fz7c8+lV VsL+Wt+X9KVIInpNeZxu2HNAg5PTav4kx1SK2sz1WooGgEH/4ZQlMv7RrPaG+vaTWclb Hrj2HgCpzWKbTly4xWAZRr1b6OtwVYYwjuQ3o= Received: by 10.142.3.21 with SMTP id 21mr151980wfc.29.1285272171259; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:02:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.10.2 with SMTP id 2ls1492096wfj.0.p; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.218.18 with SMTP id q18mr397112wfg.15.1285272170571; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.218.18 with SMTP id q18mr397111wfg.15.1285272170538; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (173-13-139-234-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a8si1380292wfg.6.2010.09.23.13.02.50; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.234 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oys0H-0001N3-3z for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:02:49 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:02:49 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version Message-ID: <20100923200249.GH30871@digitalkingdom.org> References: <38be6f52-9655-414a-adbe-8eb94559fd5f@e34g2000prn.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.234 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 05:01:00PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Stela Selckiku > wrote: > > > > I disagree with Lindar; I think that "tatpi" is a good > > translation. We could perhaps distinguish two kinds of "tatpi", > > being tired of physical exertion perhaps za'e "xadyta'i" > > (xadni+tatpi) and being tired of mental exertion perhaps za'e > > "menta'i" (menli+tatpi). =A0These would have in common that they > > are the result of a strenuous activity, either physical or > > mental, the seltatpi, which the tatpi has engaged in until > > they've finally become tatpi. =A0That's different from being se > > tolzdi, which one can be immediately upon encountering something > > tolzdi. >=20 > I think tatpi is not necessarily the result of "strenuous" > activity, it's the result of something that exhausts or drains > your energy, whatever kind of energy.=20 Being bored has nothing to do with draining of any kind of energy, in my experience. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.