From lojban+bncCK30vq5WENXm7uQEGgQZiHLn@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 23 13:07:03 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oys4J-0001sT-U1; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:07:02 -0700 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7sf499345pzk.16 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:06:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z2l4haGcDERsMSphyQUdoeEoKyFKuemeeePGABOtQy8=; b=pxEM7eNrerR3L9+PxVRseBb9oHqq9+7vdgnQJjPfTo7zyLwfU+APTmRamcz/wmRaWt Qxq23ANnZUtqzR1YJtxFMt+8hKnE5+VhnVPCZ4D5wnDYLeWcgLFkcXQpsHGU+iOCy9v3 Au1eTL5CIV8ULnabhudE3Lojdg2/IpwQK+4vk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=DZTVnhd3fC8Or/3jNMOnfETE6L5HHTxYq5Lv97JFHsc58pY1q/TDxLWbDl5phCoraP 6LOFuBhVab+gF+Tvu+uXqlqoMR2m9hUGPzHCQmGwExidwyCCAyC6/i4+rmeiLYJArgJI VbYrfWFUEox3QI5QgXGe9N3FEcXo2TqxU1hrc= Received: by 10.142.170.3 with SMTP id s3mr149416wfe.6.1285272405749; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls1494744wff.3.p; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.238.18 with SMTP id l18mr400186wfh.7.1285272405189; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.238.18 with SMTP id l18mr400185wfh.7.1285272405166; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (173-13-139-234-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a8si1387001wfg.2.2010.09.23.13.06.45; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.234 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oys44-0001rv-2J for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:06:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:06:44 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version Message-ID: <20100923200644.GI30871@digitalkingdom.org> References: <38be6f52-9655-414a-adbe-8eb94559fd5f@e34g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <20100923200001.GG30871@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.234 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 05:04:18PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 03:32:51PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > >> > >> 4. to have one's appreciation, interest, patience, etc., > >> exhausted; become or be weary; become bored (usually fol. by of > >> ): He soon tired of playing billiards." > > > > To me, that's polysemy; I would never describe boredom as > > "exhaustion of patience", and even if I did, it's nothing like > > being physically tired, which is what tatpi is for IMO. >=20 > Boredom could be exhaustion of interest rather than of patience. > Exhaustion of patience would be "he's tired of all the arguing" > for example. I don't normally feel any experience like "exhaustion of interest". I don't feel like there's an interest meter and an interesting thing drains from it until I run out. Either something is interesting, or it isn't. Certainly *exactly* the same thing over and over becomes un-interesting, but that doesn't feel like draining of a limited store of ability-to-be-interested at all. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.