From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDlj-_kBBoEFM7qDw@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 23 14:34:46 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OytRD-0007U1-AM; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:46 -0700 Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40sf507893wyb.16 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FlKryy+1KRqZj2YBoPbZoJsZ6+VnT87hIa5VG171pNA=; b=cex9B/zpUkELMxMnYuQQuifLTzU5nP6XWgZgeAC4WscZhcOZw+h+OybXTOZrcFM0o0 VBrJbWqfXWe5bzlgBrtV8yH5JU4WuTQ1bC4Gsp03fFFgeTVf2mBQS4pld4tC7FwLAsYp OkDVZnJSd1FvtK6mVAeGY+t+DWvsyOW329ri0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=exqpHRJotYcOJse6lrwHR1EUHQu18Fffmcu47513NPLf3zZX8/88klHqPKRI2SYA8H PsTq3H+V+JPxtiwQpnSgpG+fL28+IDXGFDxrhnwv54SI/twEHIroE16AKvO2goJw9p9T rJq7BEPAA8rMJLZ1WthgylYHtMdssrtafYFUg= Received: by 10.216.145.165 with SMTP id p37mr542542wej.13.1285277669956; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.39.10 with SMTP id d10ls532347wbe.2.p; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.158.11 with SMTP id d11mr139275wbx.29.1285277668561; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.158.11 with SMTP id d11mr139274wbx.29.1285277668531; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f171.google.com (mail-wy0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33si461933wbs.5.2010.09.23.14.34.27; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.171; Received: by mail-wy0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 19so1891020wyf.2 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.143.198 with SMTP id w6mr2077909wbu.124.1285277667337; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:34:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <38be6f52-9655-414a-adbe-8eb94559fd5f@e34g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <20100923200001.GG30871@digitalkingdom.org> <20100923200644.GI30871@digitalkingdom.org> <20100923201719.GJ30871@digitalkingdom.org> <20100923203358.GL30871@digitalkingdom.org> <20100923211040.GN30871@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:34:27 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Veijo Vilva wrote: > 2010/9/24 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > >> OK, I ask again, what would you use for the wanted sense of "tired" in >> Lojban? (She has been sitting there bored stiff for a while, and is >> beginning to get tired of that.) > > How about selfanza? "co'a selfanza" makes more sense than "co'a to'e se cinri" to me, but I still think "tatpi" is closer to what she is feeling than "selfanza". I see "selfanza" more as a reaction to something sudden, while "tatpi" is the result of a long process. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.