From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBD6oPnjBBoEXxw_RA@googlegroups.com Wed Sep 01 06:09:35 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oqn4D-0002L7-Qi; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:09:35 -0700 Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17sf1218473fxm.16 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:09:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ioEmcz5DMVxMUGyohdo5dxfP0NpFqNhmmrvQ2wp3Nfo=; b=0/YxvsDESv/H66838VjpMnYzKZ0tEGBE6qkQRksseYDasI6SGQ7ElBtTZTKqxyKjQb wXN8oxRJwcTqGU+dcyVBuGk67Pql/No6FvZIDFVEE8N1mfm4tqYTCnabBkJwwhSORKUj ciUMA/XoESh2UyYd6bTULdy+Diad9xLSEaZvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=mIlJhcsRDilu86qSnUJJZv/vOfpsguoEsyBRZR66DRIuhHIKUBl5LbmgoF7Yw+TRrN tYB5v9+xoENsMQJC8/5h4M8LBUthfKTT9Wj2KgNhv6z6tTOHl/OqUnBLMl5Mj1TbKwlS A954sYAETIrqNOpIToWlsCbKxHq+9jdcGw1fs= Received: by 10.223.132.197 with SMTP id c5mr229592fat.21.1283346554309; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:09:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.137.193 with SMTP id x1ls2387278bkt.0.p; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.80.4 with SMTP id r4mr262586bkk.14.1283346553148; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.80.4 with SMTP id r4mr262585bkk.14.1283346553113; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f52.google.com (mail-bw0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z25si5166950bku.1.2010.09.01.06.09.12; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.52; Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so5116529bwz.25 for ; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.68.67 with SMTP id u3mr2581567bki.199.1283346551906; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.98.71 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Sep 2010 06:09:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:09:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] ma krinu lonu lo jbopre na tavla fo la.lojban. ne'i levi snustu | Why aren't we speaking in Lojban in here? From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d81a59a1e1048f326744 --00504502d81a59a1e1048f326744 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, that was my bad, I guess what I really wanted was {.iki'ubo}. As for the mu'i, I was trying (awkwardly) to figure out how to get "the previous iff statement was made as it was motivationally because: " 2010/9/1 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > I must be mistaken on where the error was, then. > > > > "xu cumki fa lo nu galfi lo jbovlaste vreji ba lo nu lo vreji cu zbasu > > .iki'u go go'i gi mi zbasu mu'i lo nu mi birti lo nu mi ba srera jmina" > > returns: > > > > "-------------------- > > SYNTAX ERROR IN TEXT > > -------------------- > > Misparsed token : > > > > go'i [GOhA] (line 1, col 81) > > We have three different errors here: > > Error 1: the sentence is perfectly grammatical, but the parser you are > using doesn't know it must insert the elidable "ku" after "ki'u". It > should have no problem with .iki'u ku go go'i gi mi zbasu mu'i lo nu > mi birti lo nu mi ba srera jmina. > > Error 2: That's obviously not what Luke intended. He wanted either ".i > ki'u lo nu go ..." or ".i ki'u bo go ..." > > Error 3: The "mu'i" term was obviously meant to have wider scope than > just the "zbasu" bridi. Probably ".i mu'i bo mi ..." instead of "mu'i > lo nu mi ..." > > To answer the question, AFAIK you can modify the entries you have > created, I'm not sure if you can modify someone else's entries. It > used to be that you couldn't, but maybe now you can, I don't know. > Just try making an inconsequential change to some entry and test it. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --00504502d81a59a1e1048f326744 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, that was my bad, I guess what I really wanted was {.iki'ubo}. =A0= As for the mu'i, I was trying (awkwardly) to figure out how to get &quo= t;the previous iff statement was made as it was motivationally because: =A0= <everything that followed the mu'i lo nu>"

2010/9/1 Jorge Llamb=EDas = <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> I must be mistaken on where the error was, then.
>
> "xu cumki fa lo nu galfi lo jbovlaste vreji ba lo nu lo vreji cu = zbasu
> .iki'u go go'i gi mi zbasu mu'i lo nu mi birti lo nu mi ba= srera jmina"
> returns:
>
> "--------------------
> SYNTAX ERROR IN TEXT
> --------------------
> Misparsed token :
>
> =A0 go'i [GOhA] (line 1, col 81)

We have three different errors here:

Error 1: the sentence is perfectly grammatical, but the parser you are
using doesn't know it must insert the elidable "ku" after &qu= ot;ki'u". It
should have no problem with .iki'u ku go go'i gi mi zbasu mu'i = lo nu
mi birti lo nu mi ba srera jmina.

Error 2: That's obviously not what Luke intended. He wanted either &quo= t;.i
ki'u lo nu go ..." =A0or ".i ki'u bo go ..."

Error 3: The "mu'i" term was obviously meant to have wider sc= ope than
just the "zbasu" bridi. Probably ".i mu'i bo mi ..."= ; instead of "mu'i
lo nu mi ..."

To answer the question, AFAIK you can modify the entries you have
created, I'm not sure if you can modify someone else's entries. It<= br> used to be that you couldn't, but maybe now you can, I don't know.<= br> Just try making an inconsequential change to some entry and test it.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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