From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDMk_PkBBoE39AI-w@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 24 08:55:10 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OzAc6-0007dk-9i; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:55:10 -0700 Received: by pwj6 with SMTP id 6sf1001194pwj.16 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:55:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=B8Y4crLxobvOGZfQj3SmGot3Eb4wboda4dES2lcew5k=; b=rOdf/9fOgHdAnqBCaClVplir5cd8dpwOI05XYppqMudok4theNLs/ZcL/qsY8M0KfI SylGVlPd303WRce3/10XkLUvUE1UIaYVODsDRbxuH4IIMV+YYzY7Vge5TgRkqKR1FE+Q +i2n2cbOz0KbwpDejxJ4baVtD6BtmwrDu6Zic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=0c0lbs5ZrQQYbI2nxqiN8k0qtoQL14cg+ds/pi2BPLslYdTYEyb92ZhqQupUWRJr7Q LS/RxTawyPzeslJ+IMfaI4v/ithnNwdF664zb0B2o3MDw+u7XqqqmRho5RXeCC5BD40p i+iQkw8/hE3Luvo2CtwNY3sl+7gRzDAqC5Fkc= Received: by 10.142.147.2 with SMTP id u2mr212969wfd.19.1285343692742; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:54:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.194.14 with SMTP id r14ls859004wff.2.p; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.4.14 with SMTP id g14mr636904wfi.43.1285343691949; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.4.14 with SMTP id g14mr636902wfi.43.1285343691901; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f48.google.com (mail-pw0-f48.google.com [209.85.160.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e3si2584471wfh.7.2010.09.24.08.54.50; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.48; Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8so1089721pwj.7 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:54:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.127.11 with SMTP id z11mr2852602wfc.293.1285343690289; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:54:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd30b1a12f28f04910366e7 --000e0cd30b1a12f28f04910366e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's an exellent point. I only start thinking about lujvo creaton when I'm trying to think of how to translate an english word. But that seems like such a waste. If that's the only reason that we use for making lujvo then we're going to just fill the ze'a jvoca'u with glico translations. ca lo filjvocedra ma'a .e'u finti so'i to'e purci pensi je facki valsi On Sep 24, 2010 8:46 AM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas" wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Stela Selckiku wrote: >> >> As another example, it's quite easy to make lujvo by adding tce- >> (mutce, very, extremely) to give an amplified version, like these >> examples: >> >> tcegei, mutce zei gleki, very happy, overjoyed, ecstatic. >> tcecrogau, mutce zei cortu zei gasnu, to cause a lot of pain, to torture= . >> tcebra, mutce zei barda, very large, gigantic, enormous. >> tcepru, mutce zei purci, very far in the past, ancient. > > I prefer suffix -tce in these cases. "mutce lo ka broda" -> "brodytce". > > Other common suffixy lujvo makers are -rai, -mau (or -zma), -ze'a, -bi'o, -gau > > And you forgot to mention zan- and mal-! > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com = . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --000e0cd30b1a12f28f04910366e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's an exellent point.=A0 I only start thinking about lujvo creaton= when I'm trying to think of how to translate an english word.=A0 But t= hat seems like such a waste.=A0 If that's the only reason that we use f= or making lujvo then we're going to just fill the ze'a jvoca'u = with glico translations.

ca lo filjvocedra ma'a .e'u finti so'i to'e purci pensi = je facki valsi

On Sep 24, 2010 8:46 AM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas&= quot; <jjllambias@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:27 AM, St= ela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As another example, it's quite easy to make lujvo = by adding tce-
>> (mutce, very, extremely) to give an amplified ve= rsion, like these
>> examples:
>>
>> tcegei, mut= ce zei gleki, very happy, overjoyed, ecstatic.
>> tcecrogau, mutce zei cortu zei gasnu, to cause a lot of pain, to t= orture.
>> tcebra, mutce zei barda, very large, gigantic, enormous= .
>> tcepru, mutce zei purci, very far in the past, ancient.
>
> I prefer suffix -tce in these cases. "mutce lo ka broda&= quot; -> "brodytce".
>
> Other common suffixy luj= vo makers are -rai, -mau (or -zma), -ze'a, -bi'o, -gau
>
> And you forgot to mention zan- and mal-!
>
> mu'o mi&= #39;e xorxes
>
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