From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxD9w_TkBBoES1fNdQ@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 24 15:11:25 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OzGUC-0007oE-LE; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:11:24 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf1095870pxi.16 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:11:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=eNzzzeCibn4ftpE/XI+neure3nyJDrH+AZO7nyahwno=; b=ucVLznp70ivbF11M0HL2u5HKggyfdYXp3ggYfIAxH0jd1qJVGm7XzbA4/8jys9kEY/ spCykBqljgaVzPypk1ECkUHavh/rBkJh+dbXZnFs8pdlUr5La/5oNOlBw+udYDyEnoB9 HKmWfeiD/MXn9evqVdym6Lu2YIyfrTQz4V3wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=uM1u1vP014GQLMZrCvbhCBHWupYrCWJzqM0tK5VOGxLm0PCqtLhhYwq2u2BB8O9yR4 aEXtpA5FkI7h2gyJu6cErSbzACKzvlj8XTfyc2LUazZfP2rN0wfLxFL50R5pYBbHP2Eb dT/95GIKyMraiDFSQzZGMdhRzxg7m1dkL0CNQ= Received: by 10.142.170.3 with SMTP id s3mr256147wfe.6.1285366269862; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:11:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls2864197wff.3.p; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.232.19 with SMTP id e19mr781982wfh.14.1285366268298; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.232.19 with SMTP id e19mr781981wfh.14.1285366268272; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e3si2977190wfh.7.2010.09.24.15.11.07; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=aY8mh987dx7yGSxuH4MoJ/XJPAeuQM4k4I5uWFnwQcc= c=1 sm=0 a=W9-Glg-5tn8A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=kDPDoJPaw3jHmBtTkBEA:9 a=M0Pk8GGTlvrUOsCd3JhWixlmSg0A:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:55047] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 8A/C7-29098-BF12D9C4; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:11:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB294178C3 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:11:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:11:03 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009241811.04959.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 24 September 2010 18:00:13 Luke Bergen wrote: > ah, you're right with regard to alice. But as a side note, is that really > true? If I say {mi te pinka fo no da} I would think that I was saying "I > make a comment to nobody", that is, I am making some comment but am not > addressing anybody with it. It is making an assertion that I am making a > comment and that that comment is addressed to nobody. "mi te pinka fo noda" means "I'm not making a comment to anybody". "mi te pinka fo lo nomei" (or "...fo lo nonpre") means "I'm making a comment to no one". Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.