From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRC7xvXkBBoEgTBbEQ@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 24 19:49:47 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OzKpb-0005YD-JK; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:49:47 -0700 Received: by ywp4 with SMTP id 4sf725577ywp.16 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:49:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:x-ymail-osg:received :x-mailer:references:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=am14LpPkDDLO0Fkq6Umnrv+fSQoB1zhYfUKbDOkZP1Y=; b=QMFa6gm9qWcG9EuhvnwgRHopc1qCIB+DY5WkxQgx1a3o+GfTXUQtOqkvvTU4i38ywp nlf7ZRhbNMlOYlJG/VP+chjzD58FbYRahXwlfDV5zwGN382gdsD0mFWfIjsTlMmqB1mi xI1shrerlyTFwAzTwVBfseVUlfpIHF67RXI/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references :date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=k9z4CSHgo3n/WSVGIGIyKa2MLrfCzracJ03Fs5XU4aEyfsXf0K/NmWvQVk6HDwCKcY m+9DK9TAMYEvJ01Xhgp5zWtqyVcVfSWtLVhujJZkEC78cjTs3lcG/mY+8jJ0vZuLC/DH qAGtX2PQB1VqTfJ0gQH3UTnby37Bg4MDcP8d8= Received: by 10.100.233.35 with SMTP id f35mr159783anh.0.1285382971140; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:49:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.194.29 with SMTP id w29ls1088949anp.1.p; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.174.14 with SMTP id w14mr2420489ane.31.1285382970525; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.174.14 with SMTP id w14mr2420488ane.31.1285382970482; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id i10si2392481ane.4.2010.09.24.19.49.29; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.119 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.119; Received: (qmail 66215 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Sep 2010 02:49:29 -0000 Message-ID: <958903.64629.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: paJ_17cVM1nUSit5GMm3xhtL8gvyrshXAiWIGUdUsnqLaU0 ECDbwxAsQ0PdjbFH3UmkclZ0.zhJxhB8Q9SDgAgOhj7KcCCnv0W5Ogiv3RDi lPWNZg_6Rj3IRqQkWvVqSJe8KEQL06JbqE6wuXfYzJTEBhFteVedE2tkI_pj M7M9OBEP2XgjQanajO4lzhx.tyod8b8ZmhDPmOOdY5R9equvO9yreF_jm.AU yUUv1XImD5qPexlE6KqTakClQ7VyyjV369ry4SFmlUursWjeoTDnoRdNkMaJ GB7gUn0JVhcZZ7S3ptar_aoedwLlMN7_AWlplkk10l1WnKi4V8YPqILapIS4 OqD7eM0TM2YzZ3areXWsaM3SW_o_eQI61ZEuWihk- Received: from [99.92.110.13] by web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:49:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/497 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: <38be6f52-9655-414a-adbe-8eb94559fd5f@e34g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <20100923101847.c398dcec.kfa@gmx.net> <8b9a0138-57ef-4e4c-a343-653b4f481e8d@g10g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <726959.354.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <898522.38520.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <615016.22146.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <904767.37873.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:49:28 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.119 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-219686717-1285382968=:64629" --0-219686717-1285382968=:64629 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It means I have to stop and actually read them before I can clear my box an= d=20 that takes time away from other things I want to do. Not your problem, to = be=20 sure. ________________________________ From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 7:25:40 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM, John E Clifford wro= te: Well, as a linguistic philosopher (retired), I do find this about the most >interesting discussion of the last considerable time, but it is coming to >monopolize the list to the detriment of the usual trivia about failing pro= grams >and flailing projects (and rather less interesting questions about word ch= oice, >where the target is much less clear). > I fail to see how this is a bad thing. :)=20 ----- Original Message ---- >From: Jorge Llamb=EDas >To: lojban@googlegroups.com > >Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 6:15:03 PM >Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version > > >On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:10 PM, John E Clifford wr= ote: >> Lord love a duck! Are we going to have a full-blown pilpul on every wor= d in >> Alice (it has happened, in fact, in English already). xorxes' version= =20 stands. >> If you want another version, make it. And maybe someone should keep a >>variorum >> going questions. But clogging a lot of inboxes for a couple of days see= ms >> excessive. Maybe we need an Alice list -- separate and separately subsc= ribed >> to. > >There's the jbofanva list which may be more appropriate for tranlation iss= ues. > >As far as I'm concerned, the more posts the better, in whichever list, >my interest is nowhere near exhausted yet. > >mu'o mi'e xorxes > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"lojban" group. >To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 >"lojban" group. >To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 >lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at=20 >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d= o=20 zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at=20 http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0-219686717-1285382968=:64629 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It means I have to stop and actually read them bef= ore I can clear my box and that takes time away from other things I want to= do.  Not your problem, to be sure.


From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 7:25= :40 PM
Subject: Re: [lo= jban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM, John E Clifford= <kali9putra@y= ahoo.com> wrote:
Well, as a linguistic philosopher (retired), I do find this about the most<= br> interesting discussion of the last considerable time, but it is coming to monopolize the list to the detriment of the usual trivia about failing prog= rams
and flailing projects (and rather less interesting questions about word cho= ice,
where the target is much less clear).

I fail to se= e how this is a bad thing. :)

----- Original Message ----
From: Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambi= as@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com=
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 6:15:03 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Jo= hn E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.= com> wrote:
> Lord love a duck!  Are we going to have a full-blown pilpul on ev= ery word in
> Alice (it has happened, in fact, in English already).  xorxes' ve= rsion stands.
>  If you want another version, make it.  And maybe someone sh= ould keep a
>variorum
> going questions.  But clogging a lot of inboxes for a couple of d= ays seems
> excessive.  Maybe we need an Alice list -- separate and separatel= y subscribed
> to.

There's the jbofanva list which may be more appropriate for tranlation issu= es.

As far as I'm concerned, the more posts the better, in whichever list,
my interest is nowhere near exhausted yet.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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