From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDayPXkBBoE0DSevg@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 24 19:54:32 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OzKuD-0005iM-Oh; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:32 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf1854170gya.16 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=me0ZinZhWz+/474v8L2uiDN6LYHDvsE8S53qfF1V11Y=; b=BUnopGwS2MPbEt17D2yo0EUju2YSZko9grvL3IJ0BxLOKxgAi2r30pbxVvGEPP8AFO O/5ne+EX0gY4KtcBR9S0HvQltmwjf82+t9M5qF2dH21t3wwgAX+P1BSO3pkEBgO2QOr5 DY1uexYxQR/fXTWxbfim5oswMXw4vjKC2LG5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=wYlU61O0zS1O7VEbrz7I6POuoYfsJJp6GRicvZE6bk0hmDYjWjZCtypGx3N8mqqiE6 eNrCQ0etU0P+iQCbD0mq33nd+eqT0f1i4uaoRHeXhBeaKyw1gTNhabZMUh79xVQy3KND bu32fmUAj1hn4TZ8ZVjN7fiwseZt1Z1X0J/q8= Received: by 10.91.16.18 with SMTP id t18mr580567agi.40.1285383258127; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls978869ibg.3.p; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.160.79 with SMTP id m15mr771008ibx.6.1285383257320; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.160.79 with SMTP id m15mr771007ibx.6.1285383257281; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f175.google.com (mail-iw0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id db12si1802714ibb.1.2010.09.24.19.54.16; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.175; Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so1097294iwn.6 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.182.204 with SMTP id cd12mr4946175ibb.101.1285383256034; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.133 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:54:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100925024322.GB18705@alice.local> References: <20100925023935.GA18705@alice.local> <20100925024322.GB18705@alice.local> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:54:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: nu pa moi se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u lu'u From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b8f64604f8704910c9cbb --0016363b8f64604f8704910c9cbb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Alan Post wrote: > .aionys., > > As the other primary participant of the game, I'm specifically > curious about your impressions. > > What went well? What went poorly? What was great? What was > boring? > Well, once I figured out what was going on, I'd say it all went fairly smoothly. The problem was figuring out, well, what was going on. I was especially confused when I asked how to play, and you replied "This is a rock." I was like, "WTF?" I didn't really think any of it was boring, although obviously .xorxes. disagreed. :) Obviously, the best part was when he threw the rock and the stick into the lake and told us to shut up about them, although that was also kind of the worst part since that was also the end of the game. :) > I notice you used a lot of attitudinal indicators. Do you think > this should become part of the baseline game? Are you typical > or a-typical in this regard? > Well, one of the very, very few things I know about the game is that it has techniques, like the rock, stick, I'm-sure-there's-a-third-one-we-never-got-to one in the game we did. I think it would be a great idea to have an attitudinal technique. So, if that's what you mean by baseline, then yes. I honestly don't know if my use of attitudinals is typical or not. The reason I used them is because I feel that it is a shame not to use such wonderful words, and also, using them helps me to learn them. I actually remember that .u'u is "Sorry!" and .au is "Eureeka!", due pretty much entirely to the fact that I've been using them. So, I wish it was typical? > I'd like this material to develop into the best Lojban training > material it can be, so please give feedback with that in mind-- > please don't be shy. > > -Alan I think most of the people in both the Lojban and Lojban-Beginners groups would describe me as many things, but I doubt shy is one of them. :) -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Alan Post <alanpost@su= nflowerriver.org> wrote:
.aionys.,

As the other primary participant of the game, I'm specifically
curious about your impressions.

What went well? =A0What went poorly? =A0What was great? =A0What was
boring?

Well, once I figured out what was going on= , I'd say it all went fairly smoothly. The problem was figuring out, we= ll, what was going on. I was especially confused when I asked how to play, = and you replied "This is a rock." I was like, "WTF?" I = didn't really think any of it was boring, although obviously .xorxes. d= isagreed. :) Obviously, the best part was when he threw the rock and the st= ick into the lake and told us to shut up about them, although that was also= kind of the worst part since that was also the end of the game. :)
=A0
I notice you used a lot of attitudinal indicators. =A0Do you think
this should become part of the baseline game? =A0Are you typical
or a-typical in this regard?

Well, one of the very= , very few things I know about the game is that it has techniques, like the= rock, stick, I'm-sure-there's-a-third-one-we-never-got-to one in t= he game we did. I think it would be a great idea to have an attitudinal tec= hnique. So, if that's what you mean by baseline, then yes.

I honestly don't know if my use of attitudinals is typical or not. = The reason I used them is because I feel that it is a shame not to use such= wonderful words, and also, using them helps me to learn them. I actually r= emember that .u'u is "Sorry!" and .au is "Eureeka!"= , due pretty much entirely to the fact that I've been using them.

So, I wish it was typical?
=A0
I'd like this material to develop into the best Lojban training
material it can be, so please give feedback with that in mind--
please don't be shy.

-Alan

I think most of the people in both the L= ojban and Lojban-Beginners groups would describe me as many things, but I d= oubt shy is one of them. :)

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk= . mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D= )

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