From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCJ0_XkBBoEN_iXRA@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 24 20:16:41 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OzLFd-0006uz-U6; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:41 -0700 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9sf1895617gxk.16 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=oDlJW0ZuSZ5ECZpujbX9guMcowcC/kv2denjqrjfbTE=; b=pwQobl17f4AqEFSYdfmbWEBaDt2klg/LM34TZ+/cKvJ3eZTPl/pqnveDbWpDMHCUnY cFzXc2LFExfFXO3kH6tIg3qRYgleqNEwXDWR/UlruFgfJR3tPQWAk4NbpO9HcYD0zUx2 98GpGABsD9DkV0QQ3eTQlwG9JX1Nq51i0tIMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ZELK4BfY60lTgIEttW2IzUWMuZEEBUiQ/C1X9B44ihg1jLhK10oGmoc1db5LIj2A46 cjs5N78ltRw+z8CXTNar9ruW5y6j7AKxHidZvG+5QdiqKNzCCDnh1zUQ3nKlHEG+kMTc y6Lm24WvIdLNHcxem+++msGQBR2AWB1quhPdU= Received: by 10.91.53.12 with SMTP id f12mr597761agk.0.1285384585818; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.193.98 with SMTP id dt34ls986754ibb.0.p; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr738969ibb.5.1285384585287; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr738968ibb.5.1285384585231; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f178.google.com (mail-iw0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e25si1811195ibk.7.2010.09.24.20.16.24; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.178; Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so2514302iwn.9 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.161.68 with SMTP id q4mr4898461ibx.79.1285384584012; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.133 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:16:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <958903.64629.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <38be6f52-9655-414a-adbe-8eb94559fd5f@e34g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <20100923101847.c398dcec.kfa@gmx.net> <8b9a0138-57ef-4e4c-a343-653b4f481e8d@g10g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <726959.354.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <898522.38520.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <615016.22146.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <904767.37873.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <958903.64629.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:16:23 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0050450140b587a25c04910cebe9 --0050450140b587a25c04910cebe9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:49 PM, John E Clifford wrot= e: > It means I have to stop and actually read them before I can clear my box > and that takes time away from other things I want to do. Not your proble= m, > to be sure. > Ah, I see. This is why I'm glad I use Gmail. this entire conversation is al= l grouped together, so no cluttering of my inbox - although I actually have all Lojban-related messages skip the inbox and go straight to the Lojban folder anyway - and I pretty much just read it when I get to it. Like right now, I have the city design thread marked unread because, while I have no idea how to help, I am interested in the result of the help that is offered= , so I'll look at it at some point in the future and read all the related messages in it at one go. So, in conclusion, you should get Gmail. ;) Well, that and the fact that I know from experience that Yahoo!s spam filter is not nearly as awesome. :D > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jonathan Jones > *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Fri, September 24, 2010 7:25:40 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM, John E Clifford wr= ote: > >> Well, as a linguistic philosopher (retired), I do find this about the mo= st >> interesting discussion of the last considerable time, but it is coming t= o >> monopolize the list to the detriment of the usual trivia about failing >> programs >> and flailing projects (and rather less interesting questions about word >> choice, >> where the target is much less clear). >> > > I fail to see how this is a bad thing. :) > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Jorge Llamb=EDas >> To: lojban@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 6:15:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version >> >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:10 PM, John E Clifford >> wrote: >> > Lord love a duck! Are we going to have a full-blown pilpul on every >> word in >> > Alice (it has happened, in fact, in English already). xorxes' version >> stands. >> > If you want another version, make it. And maybe someone should keep = a >> >variorum >> > going questions. But clogging a lot of inboxes for a couple of days >> seems >> > excessive. Maybe we need an Alice list -- separate and separately >> subscribed >> > to. >> >> There's the jbofanva list which may be more appropriate for tranlation >> issues. >> >> As far as I'm concerned, the more posts the better, in whichever list, >> my interest is nowhere near exhausted yet. >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu > do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:49 PM, John E Clifford= <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
It means I have to stop and actually = read them before I can clear my box and that takes time away from other thi= ngs I want to do. =A0Not your problem, to be sure.

Ah, I see. This is why I'm glad I use= Gmail. this entire conversation is all grouped together, so no cluttering = of my inbox - although I actually have all Lojban-related messages skip the= inbox and go straight to the Lojban folder anyway - and I pretty much just= read it when I get to it. Like right now, I have the city design thread ma= rked unread because, while I have no idea how to help, I am interested in t= he result of the help that is offered, so I'll look at it at some point= in the future and read all the related messages in it at one go.

So, in conclusion, you should get Gmail. ;) Well, that and the fact tha= t I know from experience that Yahoo!s spam filter is not nearly as awesome.= :D
=A0

From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 7= :25:40 PM

Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM, John E Clifford= <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, as a linguistic philosopher (retired), I do find this about the most<= br> interesting discussion of the last considerable time, but it is coming to monopolize the list to the detriment of the usual trivia about failing prog= rams
and flailing projects (and rather less interesting questions about word cho= ice,
where the target is much less clear).

I fail to se= e how this is a bad thing. :)

----- Original Message ----
From: Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 6:15:03 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Alice - the xorlo version

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:10 PM, John E Clifford= <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lord love a duck! =A0Are we going to have a full-blown pilpul on every= word in
> Alice (it has happened, in fact, in English already). =A0xorxes' v= ersion stands.
> =A0If you want another version, make it. =A0And maybe someone should k= eep a
>variorum
> going questions. =A0But clogging a lot of inboxes for a couple of days= seems
> excessive. =A0Maybe we need an Alice list -- separate and separately s= ubscribed
> to.

There's the jbofanva list which may be more appropriate for tranlation = issues.

As far as I'm concerned, the more posts the better, in whichever list,<= br> my interest is nowhere near exhausted yet.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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