From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhD61_XkBBoEcr3ifg@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 24 20:27:05 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OzLPi-0007xO-4z; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:27:05 -0700 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9sf1897945gxk.16 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:26:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=HcbrYFmrqmedwSUFn6Nx6EULorpnZuKrbYEpxuqgJtE=; b=FXue+NKyAHkVTWChQ7qw7fJPIn266Rra5O6ghNY+eC0ZISyvMaorVIHoqV1pUqV/rq e5EVlmyDEr8xmqfQdJ0Dk31C2/5C/EWEfeoJAcXxKwpz3yvI/PoL+W+xDeSeSZB4c21l q07sa7R9aB6ulslEPPJ/AcTjlYz9dBgiRK4HU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=hIu7qajoNjiATEeSVVoqijAyJnLXDn3iYAoMdLDeXhQeVH/gOL7isIZS35OoCBv3tw 9M6wExV4WG/6LD5VYLVZDS7fpFOiGnhYcraIMWQa/VGpmEc5atC6MjtBCaEv7rt+LuTv QF3ORSLbyMG3fqM0/8fXr+B1wZxT+6VD8FrGg= Received: by 10.90.56.16 with SMTP id e16mr580653aga.27.1285385210055; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:26:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.125.77 with SMTP id x13ls988007ibr.1.p; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.161.69 with SMTP id q5mr621378ibx.8.1285385209586; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.161.69 with SMTP id q5mr621377ibx.8.1285385209538; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com (mail-iw0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z37si1817600ibq.4.2010.09.24.20.26.48; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.181; Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so3824704iwn.40 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:26:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.183.81 with SMTP id cf17mr4932698ibb.32.1285385207995; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.133 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:26:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100925023935.GA18705@alice.local> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:26:47 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] nu pa moi se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u lu'u From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b882cb8de3904910d1096 --0016363b882cb8de3904910d1096 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/9/24 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Alan Post > wrote: > > > > I would love to hear questions about things you find interesting or > > curious, corrections to the grammar, and any feedback you have, > > either as you watched the game being played or see it here now. > > Since we are outside of Hedwig now, I can proceed with the corrections > to the grammar: :) > > > li'u .i la .aionys. cusku lu > > > > .i.ienai mi skami nu surla .i ri gunka > > I assume that was meant to be: ".i ienai lo mi skami na surla" > What? {lo mi}? mi doesn't need a lo.... But yes about the nu->na bit. > > li'u .i la .alyn. cusku lu > > > > .i si'o ta rokci ku xanri ko > > ".i lo si'o ..." > > > .i ko'a pe mi .i lo rokci pe mi .i ko'e pe do .i lo grana pe do > > Grammatical, but no predicates here. I assume you want: > > .i ko'a me mi moi .i lo rokci cu me mi moi .i ko'e me do moi .i lo > rokci cu me do moi > > > .i lo rokci pe mi xu .i lo grana pe mi xu > > Again, you are not really asking anything about your rock here. > > > li'u .i la .alyn. cusku lu > > > > .i mi djica lo za'i ponse be lo grana pe do .i xu do dunda lo grana > > pe do mi > > "be" not needed there. > > > li'u .i la .aionys. cusku lu > > > > .i ca ko'a goi lo rokci pe mi .ije ko'e goi lo grana pe do > > "ca ku", but again no predicate. > Should I have used du instead of goi, then? > li'u .i la .aionys. cusku lu > > > > .i go'i gi'o do dunda ko'a mi > > Not grammatical. "gi'o" connects bridi-tails only. > Well, poo. I assume you know what I meant, so what is the correct way to sa= y it? > mu'o mi'e xorxes > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016363b882cb8de3904910d1096 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2010/9/24 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com&g= t;
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Alan Post <alanpost@sunflowerriver.org>= wrote:
>
> I would love to hear questions about things you find interesting or > curious, corrections to the grammar, and any feedback you have,
> either as you watched the game being played or see it here now.

Since we are outside of Hedwig now, I can proceed with the correction= s
to the grammar: :)

> =A0li'u .i la .aionys. cusku lu
>
> =A0 =A0.i.ienai mi skami nu surla .i ri gunka

I assume that was meant to be: ".i ienai lo mi skami na surla&qu= ot;

What? {lo mi}? mi doesn't need a lo.... Bu= t yes about the nu->na bit.
=A0
> =A0li'u .i la .alyn. cusku lu
>
> =A0 =A0.i si'o ta rokci ku xanri ko

".i lo si'o ..."

> =A0 =A0.i ko'a pe mi .i lo rokci pe mi .i ko'e pe do .i lo gra= na pe do

Grammatical, but no predicates here. I assume you want:

.i ko'a me mi moi .i lo rokci cu me mi moi .i ko'e me do moi .i lo<= br> rokci cu me do moi

> =A0 =A0.i lo rokci pe mi xu .i lo grana pe mi xu

Again, you are not really asking anything about your rock here.

> =A0li'u .i la .alyn. cusku lu
>
> =A0 =A0.i mi djica lo za'i ponse be lo grana pe do .i xu do dunda = lo grana
> =A0 =A0pe do mi

"be" not needed there.

> =A0li'u .i la .aionys. cusku lu
>
> =A0 =A0.i ca ko'a goi lo rokci pe mi .ije ko'e goi lo grana pe= do

"ca ku", but again no predicate.

S= hould I have used du instead of goi, then?

> =A0li'u .i la .aionys. cusku lu
>
> =A0 =A0.i go'i gi'o do dunda ko'a mi

Not grammatical. "gi'o" connects bridi-tails only.
<= /blockquote>

Well, poo. I assume you know what I meant, so what is = the correct way to say it?
=A0
mu'o mi'e xorxes

--
mu'o mi'e= .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa = bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am yo= ur father. :D )

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