From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhCHwILlBBoEad2Knw@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 27 06:45:58 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0E1i-0003oi-Vi; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:58 -0700 Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17sf1213050fxm.16 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Z4YW9dP9srWt4VqDSLugDvoAkZHwbOzA77F0SMH24Xc=; b=OJGGZ7v7vzJgzad1XVRoK/fr0osat6uaqP7QYg/8UjOPs7U/O5Kcq4MxL8Y++Gyxh5 pqZJBSF4XsD4sLaafAs9HK1Vh459idO5XDMsBKuTWunzOtEifahQk6ijtMMnsnrAD095 gi7RFpBKmy+kZnEm2tZZ2hs71rW77GgDhHV8U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=pqQ7xl8oUbQQ6MzJBRIueB0n038yLQsbn1xVp56iJBbYH5ZoXBRoSoRQfVKyKLYUgC s/fHi48qBboEscaE7mDbzMhlxziOUto1Ncw18WKN3qEOb2Tp5nmtIplCXHZt4OvARO1E jnlsJB/TFkgsCnARavJbJnyzLC5qTenfMqUSQ= Received: by 10.223.92.153 with SMTP id r25mr347934fam.13.1285595143354; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.36.74 with SMTP id s10ls1462211bkd.1.p; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.73.205 with SMTP id r13mr288025bkj.22.1285595142272; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.73.205 with SMTP id r13mr288023bkj.22.1285595142095; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f50.google.com (mail-fx0-f50.google.com [209.85.161.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z17si3109290bkb.7.2010.09.27.06.45.40; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.50; Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so3317505fxm.23 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.123.10 with SMTP id a10mr526339mun.119.1285595107604; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.184.72 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:45:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <729457.38076.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C8DF3A5.3040702@lojban.org> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:45:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: other-centric UI From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6497d58ba484304913def5e --0016e6497d58ba484304913def5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Stela Selckiku wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> > >> > I find that usage very strange, seeing as normally UI attaches to the >> > preceding valsi. >> >> It's not a UI, it's a COI. It's glue for sticking an experiencer to a >> UI. It modifies a UI (to its left) by attaching to it the person who >> experiences that emotion or has that perspective (to its right). The >> UI that it modifies can in turn attach to anything, as normal. >> >> mi'e la stela selckiku >> mu'o >> > > .i.uaki'e mi ca jimpe mu'i ma do do ckire .i je ma jimpe .i mi djuno lo du'u go'o .i mi fanza .iku'i mi mojgau .ai do lo du'u do nitcu lo nu jundi lo nu pilno lo cmavo be zo coi --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e6497d58ba484304913def5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Jonathan Jones = <eyeonus@gmail.co= m> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Stela Selckiku = <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
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> preceding valsi.

It's not a UI, it's a COI. =A0It= 's glue for sticking an experiencer to a
UI. =A0It modifies a UI (to= its left) by attaching to it the person who
experiences that emotion or= has that perspective (to its right). =A0The
UI that it modifies can in turn attach to anything, as normal.

mi'e la stela selckiku
mu'o

.i.uaki'e mi ca jimpe
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=A0=A0 mu'i ma do do ckire .i je ma jimpe .i mi djuno lo du'u = go'o .i mi fanza .iku'i mi mojgau .ai do lo du'u do nitcu lo nu= jundi lo nu pilno lo cmavo be zo coi=A0
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