From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDgwoLlBBoE_8aFSA@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 27 06:51:45 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0E7G-0004Dx-Ek; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:45 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf2546072pxi.16 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=XCYaPkFEynJhmZRgriG0xsDGX/EwPxyN7yHGmvyyKi8=; b=bJi88+FmrogePJRc7HsnjQDSlNpoZWEr8PuLTq6IJ9J/YO5od9rs+u3prBMbSqmaQs Jb8qJZ8eCu6+VXyP8yWvPGN+9mpZaTMf4kiLT62bEG5iawOClzVR1czQV7NjJ0K0cGDa Z7ROcyjG8t+o1NiYr2KCCJfKgwxtXOWCyi8W4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=lE7zuX6HauMxmAfiejn+A/mZ0L1WtW30MSTER1jtpTX1RX9cYSnCUwgCjjeUUWQxxT bs3Mth+64BAQ5PD1DBrVvzHn972UzXM3C+0ABsFYcbGcxLU/cBA4A4wCQnTpXM8RX+HX i4on2ykANZIoFEeEf+whj++Xkmpkf7PSyZlxQ= Received: by 10.142.9.28 with SMTP id 28mr384738wfi.0.1285595488479; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.194.14 with SMTP id r14ls3726876wff.2.p; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.209.21 with SMTP id h21mr2067993wfg.49.1285595487999; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.209.21 with SMTP id h21mr2067992wfg.49.1285595487964; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s33si7006223wfc.0.2010.09.27.06.51.26; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.176; Received: by pxi3 with SMTP id 3so1787851pxi.21 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.24.15 with SMTP id 15mr8538553wax.122.1285595486815; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <729457.38076.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C8DF3A5.3040702@lojban.org> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:51:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: other-centric UI From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163641777751073604913e064d --00163641777751073604913e064d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .u'i mi ji'a pensi .iku'i mi na se raktu lo nu mi gendra stidi On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Stela Selckiku wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Jones >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > I find that usage very strange, seeing as normally UI attaches to the >>> > preceding valsi. >>> >>> It's not a UI, it's a COI. It's glue for sticking an experiencer to a >>> UI. It modifies a UI (to its left) by attaching to it the person who >>> experiences that emotion or has that perspective (to its right). The >>> UI that it modifies can in turn attach to anything, as normal. >>> >>> mi'e la stela selckiku >>> mu'o >>> >> >> .i.uaki'e mi ca jimpe > > > mu'i ma do do ckire .i je ma jimpe .i mi djuno lo du'u go'o .i mi fanza > .iku'i mi mojgau .ai do lo du'u do nitcu lo nu jundi lo nu pilno lo cmavo be > zo coi > > --gejyspa > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Michael = Turniansky <m= turniansky@gmail.com> wrote:


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:05 A= M, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Stela Selckiku = <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I find that usage very strange, seeing as normally UI attaches t= o the
> preceding valsi.

It's not a UI, it's a COI. =A0It= 's glue for sticking an experiencer to a
UI. =A0It modifies a UI (to= its left) by attaching to it the person who
experiences that emotion or= has that perspective (to its right). =A0The
UI that it modifies can in turn attach to anything, as normal.

mi'e la stela selckiku
mu'o

.i.uaki'e mi ca jimpe
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=A0=A0 mu'i ma do do ckire .i je ma jimpe .i mi djuno lo du&= #39;u go'o .i mi fanza .iku'i mi mojgau .ai do lo du'u do nitcu= lo nu jundi lo nu pilno lo cmavo be zo coi=A0
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