From lojban+bncCIGHwM2rDhDgo4PlBBoEc5znEw@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 27 10:18:41 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0HLX-00014c-TD; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:41 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf4380084gwb.16 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CI3KkoCvvrZ5/NifXBxykwpMpRviWNGZX/M7aONdKZE=; b=ZFv4A7t3VmzkRomfRTm6GneIXiRW3xOQWFoQkcy5VQsebyB9FTbFYdPbdVnH4DvZkd NGJoGVGEehvuJ3WyKLzmzipmIXPfoccZ9q4+qo63axIrI61Gb+QYDMg3rJ18KGIvU1m3 wr1CNLk+q9mp0LnmN8Aqj6syUuhhzWT/JHruY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=PftijRwNPdq8AyFcDVlYmuoTzCUNetqlz7JAGJ+DmQScpKTHTybhgA3T91OCA1rvdQ dMCF+syiy43wZUsI97Cgg9kN34BlNS1OleBQ4eLPKksQMkwJw3XHgwcC4ep1Jl/Ot0Jy BuuBwetnu2w82ESd9gDCne9I8X9FK2/5l162o= Received: by 10.90.86.1 with SMTP id j1mr1309870agb.18.1285607904454; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.17.28 with SMTP id 28ls2484351agq.6.p; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.108.3 with SMTP id k3mr1417300ybm.15.1285607902706; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.108.3 with SMTP id k3mr1417299ybm.15.1285607902677; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f179.google.com (mail-gy0-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l2si5717276ybn.7.2010.09.27.10.18.22; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.160.179 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.160.179; Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so2165868gyh.10 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.123.218 with SMTP id q26mr685965vcr.82.1285607902180; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.10.243.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l9sm3875479vbp.1.2010.09.27.10.18.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:18:18 -0600 From: Alan Post To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] nu pa moi se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u lu'u Message-ID: <20100927171800.GB25976@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20100925023935.GA18705@alice.local> <20100927134719.GC24270@alice.local> <201009271901.55338.jezuch@interia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201009271901.55338.jezuch@interia.pl> X-Original-Sender: alanpost@sunflowerriver.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.160.179 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 07:01:47PM +0200, Krzysztof Sobolewski wrote: > Dnia poniedzia=B3ek, 27 wrze=B6nia 2010 o 16:04:17 Jorge Llamb=EDas napis= a=B3(a): > > The construct is "ME sumti MOI > > [MEhU]", which converts the sumti into a selbri. >=20 > Can you point to a section of CLL where it's described? I think it's the = first time I see this construct and I read The Reference (almost) cover to = cover ;) It seems to me that {moi} is the first overloaded cmavo I encounte= red... Can you insert other MOI there? What do they mean in this context? MOI is all over the place in the CLL: http://dag.github.com/cll/3/9/ # used, but not described http://dag.github.com/cll/5/12/ http://dag.github.com/cll/5/13/ http://dag.github.com/cll/5/9/ http://dag.github.com/cll/9/7/ # used, but not described http://dag.github.com/cll/17/11/ http://dag.github.com/cll/18/10/ http://dag.github.com/cll/18/11/ http://dag.github.com/cll/18/12/ http://dag.github.com/cll/18/21/ http://dag.github.com/cll/18/23/ http://dag.github.com/cll/18/26/ The one of these you are interested in is here: http://dag.github.com/cll/18/11/ I personally think it could use a bit of fleshing out, it glosses over a lot very fast. -Alan --=20 .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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