From lojban+bncCIGHwM2rDhDUpIPlBBoEn6ZJfA@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 27 10:20:37 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0HNQ-0001DO-A8; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:36 -0700 Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17sf1331991fxm.16 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=WHhhwmKOd4zKjNCD2dHBKMiau1JwuUQN+axeCH5ryPk=; b=rlSPNVMMB5ixG0zS8oeRgs/f7079Sn4HO/gsCZhICSW6j3UJpfyVkqxxkM98UWD1Aj oX3658xW3lwRSB4yj70t+RX64jUZOM8W7x2r8sgGWGK8lyrD1A5cTqmkIZTdN7FJGdi9 YLoNePbyedhE+WJ0HK6Rlb9TDmlsh63igO8q8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=Gk3v+p4ussrp3tmEHTf9ob65TvcP3oyu11joOzZ+5ZWekagcLrZp4uYXrno7KsaZXU AsKOpG7fGsUjKIT8cqARCBKXev6LijsyHWPVxrGq4D45PLOhf8CMoeCtfy5pMk+/bdZn PVmmWVmNUEelPikzYiLpUqFVF9Fv3BAag6GS4= Received: by 10.223.7.21 with SMTP id b21mr393708fab.33.1285608020683; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.32.142 with SMTP id c14ls1413513fad.2.p; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.121.141 with SMTP id h13mr78709far.0.1285608018730; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.121.141 with SMTP id h13mr78708far.0.1285608018706; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b13si1603942fab.5.2010.09.27.10.20.18; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.161.53 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.161.53; Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14so4741602fxm.40 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.138.4 with SMTP id q4mr1248383mun.26.1285608012274; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.10.243.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d12sm1542407vcn.14.2010.09.27.10.20.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:20:04 -0600 From: Alan Post To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] syntactically correct but grammatically wrong Message-ID: <20100927172004.GC25976@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <201009271124.26547.phma@phma.optus.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alanpost@sunflowerriver.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.161.53 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:13:00AM -0700, Lindar wrote: > Well, we never said anything about semantics, only grammatical > unambiguity. The grammar doesn't parse for semantics, it only looks at > the grammatical class and parses it like any other of its class. The > most obvious example is putting inappropriate words in abstracted > places. > my personal favorite in this class being {.i mi djica lo rokci}, as that is how I originally translated it from English to Lojban. -Alan -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.