From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCKs4PlBBoEmcpzRw@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 27 10:51:23 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0HrB-0003dN-7s; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:51:23 -0700 Received: by yxs7 with SMTP id 7sf4401468yxs.16 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=tnilx6yE5Em3hg/tjvUbAgHW2zKEN2RBf5rNCv+x71Q=; b=RtrHleBN/zbqkheHUEzOjqVvW41d/j75ULTZK31D0UOpOHN+mVOoRFhYqrfPfOycV1 5bUUseU5jRnax2L3kXnFIW+4qSLyH/fA7jaSF8aF+H472SkGhzDQDDK6lfWiGGhyfOg8 2lzgDeYmO1cOBjcvehrfz/ZhpOtQHYtRekjaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=tqJqfxsY7gzCZ3fkkGdC1cVZ4JKXXNqWK1sGt9iw/NoYW9reMrz5qwHDGIzD3dFwNB Z/KyYR5fDZPz3yV4xvhm1NTW6B4UkpBg0gSn8qecUP1tZaXA9PAgk3IGQu1Q1zBaayVg cyhmiVO0pnMeqBWIoWMGhKz25ZT1hYEItA6FI= Received: by 10.100.30.7 with SMTP id d7mr518and.65.1285609866418; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:51:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.131.11 with SMTP id i11ls1344228ann.5.p; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.189.19 with SMTP id m19mr1670743anf.12.1285609865859; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.189.19 with SMTP id m19mr1670740anf.12.1285609865821; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f174.google.com (mail-gx0-f174.google.com [209.85.161.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l14si3544766ang.2.2010.09.27.10.51.04; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.174; Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so1587195gxk.19 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:51:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.30.13 with SMTP id d13mr5812260agd.126.1285609860049; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:50:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009271938.58364.jezuch@interia.pl> References: <20100925023935.GA18705@alice.local> <201009271901.55338.jezuch@interia.pl> <20100927171800.GB25976@alice.local> <201009271938.58364.jezuch@interia.pl> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:50:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] nu pa moi se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u lu'u From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636164665073dd10491415f6a --001636164665073dd10491415f6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmm. {barda traji fa lo nu me mi moi fo lo mi pendo} no, that's not right. I'm trying to think of an example where it actually would make sense to talk about the me-th member in a set of people. {lo traji cu me mi moi lo mi pendo lo ka barda} maybe? that {cu} is necessary right? If the {me} turns what follows into a selbri then the {mi moi} would get sucked up in to a tanru with {traji} right? On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Krzysztof Sobolewski wr= ote: > Dnia poniedzia=B3ek, 27 wrze=B6nia 2010 o 19:18:18 Alan Post napisa=B3(a)= : > > The one of these you are interested in is here: > > > > http://dag.github.com/cll/18/11/ > > Ah indeed, ki'e. > > > I personally think it could use a bit of fleshing out, it glosses > > over a lot very fast. > > Yeah, no wonder I didn't remember it... > > "It is perfectly possible to use non-numerical sumti after "me" and befor= e > a member of MOI, producing strange results indeed:" > > Is it "perfectly possible" because there's no way to prevent it with > grammar itself, i.e. it's a bug that became a feature? ;) Because I still > don't have an idea what {me mi moi} would mean (me-th?). > -- > Ecce Jezuch > "-Oh, yeah, that was really cool! Huh, huh / -No, that also sucked... > -What do you know, asswipe? / -We know everything, buttmunch" > - Beavis & St. Peter > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --001636164665073dd10491415f6a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmm.

{barda traji fa lo nu me mi moi fo lo mi pendo}

no, that's not right.  I'm trying to th= ink of an example where it actually would make sense to talk about the me-t= h member in a set of people.

{lo traji cu me mi moi lo mi pendo lo ka barda} maybe?<= /div>

that {cu} is necessary right?  If t= he {me} turns what follows into a selbri then the {mi moi} would get sucked= up in to a tanru with {traji} right?

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Krzysztof S= obolewski <jezuch= @interia.pl> wrote:
Dnia poniedzia=B3ek, 27 wrze=B6nia 2010 o 19:18:18 Alan Post napisa=B3(a):<= br>
> The one of these you are interested in is here:
>
>   = http://dag.github.com/cll/18/11/

Ah indeed, ki'e.

> I personally think it could use a bit of fleshing out, it glosses
> over a lot very fast.

Yeah, no wonder I didn't remember it...

"It is perfectly possible to use non-numerical sumti after “me&r= dquo; and before a member of MOI, producing strange results indeed:"
Is it "perfectly possible" because there's no way to prevent = it with grammar itself, i.e. it's a bug that became a feature? ;) Becau= se I still don't have an idea what {me mi moi} would mean (me-th?).
--
Ecce Jezuch
"-Oh, yeah, that was really cool! Huh, huh / -No, that also sucked...<= br> -What do you know, asswipe? / -We know everything, buttmunch"
- Beavis & St. Peter

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