From lojban+bncCIGHwM2rDhCPv4PlBBoEVlSn7A@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 27 11:17:03 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0IG4-0005g9-8L; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:17:03 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf1395949wwe.16 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:16:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=/5h+fFlyYp1sueeSLT2VhuNnBvgSpoF++Rf1MlMKfw0=; b=yVq3q6ghmuPtss4dYbsyXhVOupa6dZnRm90FE9gvN550Ei5xGVXb2OKE0A2xBnl/bh xPpdfNr17BDturifxgiRbA5z5HiuD52mgzn7BitcPR6pYImVavzLhCKWLSBSzqVyMyIe QRR+FDJB2B8vV1ObCtiRDm0CYWcHBNaQGeItk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=2Yj6VF4QsIaOUP1xn9hap3p+TPGMm9vPRvPmY61pKVEbs6gNuiRfr3r6mvPB4HVdAi GaTk2L+1d1siVUDHDsjqodLaDtt8YeJjEaxQmnXVGktA0IHkI9BLuHtrQwf+P/RT0Njv KsCdo1APFXACZYwe06Zny5GX7PsyqWgUwteDg= Received: by 10.216.145.167 with SMTP id p39mr1314778wej.10.1285611407827; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:16:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.213.81.7 with SMTP id v7ls636486ebk.3.p; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.32.2 with SMTP id a2mr1570476ebd.11.1285611406669; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.32.2 with SMTP id a2mr1570474ebd.11.1285611406120; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f179.google.com (mail-ey0-f179.google.com [209.85.215.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b5si6456572eei.0.2010.09.27.11.16.46; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.215.179 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.215.179; Received: by eye27 with SMTP id 27so3058268eye.10 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.112.205 with SMTP id x13mr738140ebp.16.1285611405798; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.10.243.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e7sm1578492vcm.21.2010.09.27.11.16.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:16:41 -0600 From: Alan Post To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] nu pa moi se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u lu'u Message-ID: <20100927181641.GG25976@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20100925023935.GA18705@alice.local> <201009271901.55338.jezuch@interia.pl> <20100927171800.GB25976@alice.local> <201009271938.58364.jezuch@interia.pl> <20100927175015.GD25976@alice.local> <20100927181351.GF25976@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100927181351.GF25976@alice.local> X-Original-Sender: alanpost@sunflowerriver.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.215.179 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:13:51PM -0600, Alan Post wrote: > let me try this again: > > me mi moi => me_x1 me (me_x2= (moi_x1=mi) moi) > > so the x2 of me is {mi moi} and the x1 of moi is {mi} > > x1 is a mass formed from the set of x2={mi moi} of n members > x1={me} is the (n)th member of set x2 when ordered by rule x3 [by standard x4] > And after a correction from Krzysztof Sobolewski: me mi moi: me: convert sumti to selbri/tanru element; x1 is specific to [sumti] in aspect x2={mi moi}. moi: x1={me} is the (n)th member of set x2 when ordered by rule x3 [by standard x4] Thank you! What did I get wrong? -Alan -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.