From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCa4IPlBBoEmw5jag@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 27 12:27:40 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0JMM-000489-Dj; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:39 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf4470178gya.16 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=q5ZnSCw/lWLqyQNLOuEMzpdblx8R9i0I+YcUT45o73M=; b=Vz2vJhpNZCd6vR+rA8VhCzavZl1pTaM76Fp+3fW6OxRWdaQB93QHbT7C7WaZCgio34 LFcgdMj4sQ3pHc7t2Ghz3VBcDcKxfRC5gv+60m1KzVn+GFNtv8a0c2+KUHSdsWoXA3R3 DE3F93nFN2JnkQaerfrcdL8mYjNUF6Cc9MqJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=6Nmviy1XvSmttS0w/mWO/pDQO1O5XSqda7p3hmGwlC3MVD4mSuLYuYg4aHvZ0qtjCJ lT7OnySeQKe7IIIbSiS6roxJp4uaNWpuxHiS3dEnazh5P2zbOp3dv5jjxc1rQhHc6Mho iLfh/s6W1i6vnnHp53mgDTyyWiL+GSSx+46K8= Received: by 10.236.95.129 with SMTP id p1mr3230yhf.16.1285615642912; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:22 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.86.11 with SMTP id j11ls1382137anb.4.p; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.49.29 with SMTP id w29mr3646267anw.23.1285615641806; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.49.29 with SMTP id w29mr3646266anw.23.1285615641724; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f52.google.com (mail-gw0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j8si3610610ana.5.2010.09.27.12.27.20; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.52; Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so2111680gwj.39 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.144.3 with SMTP id r3mr9622150ybd.127.1285615639402; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:27:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100925023935.GA18705@alice.local> <201009271901.55338.jezuch@interia.pl> <20100927171800.GB25976@alice.local> <201009271938.58364.jezuch@interia.pl> <20100927175015.GD25976@alice.local> <20100927181351.GF25976@alice.local> <20100927181641.GG25976@alice.local> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:27:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] nu pa moi se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u lu'u From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5cfb081226d049142b78b --000e0cd5cfb081226d049142b78b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 and po'e mi would be like "my arm" or "my father". It always confused me that people listed them like that (pe, po, po'e). I still get tripped up thinking things like "oh, so then for attaching incidental info I would use ne, .... no, .. no'e?" I'm still trying to train myself to think of it as poi - noi pe - ne po'u - no'u and po and po'e are like their own little beasts. Which brings up another question. Why no incidental versions of {po} and {po'e}? All the other restrictive markers have incidental counterparts. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Lindar wrote: > regarding ki'e, the reason it wants the person thanked is because it's > in selma'o COI, just like je'e, vi'o, doi, and others. > > Also, re pe/po. > pe mi is my chair at work or the friend of a friend. > po mi is the chair I bought last week or the sandwhich I brought for > lunch. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --000e0cd5cfb081226d049142b78b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and po'e mi would be like "my arm" or "my father". = =A0

It always confused me that people listed them like t= hat (pe, po, po'e). =A0I still get tripped up thinking things like &quo= t;oh, so then for attaching incidental info I would use ne, .... no, .. no&= #39;e?"

I'm still trying to train myself to think of it as<= /div>
poi - noi
pe - ne
po'u - no'u

and po and po'e are like their own little beasts. =A0= Which brings up another question. =A0Why no incidental versions of {po} and= {po'e}? =A0All the other restrictive markers have incidental counterpa= rts.

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Lindar= <lindarthe= bard@yahoo.com> wrote:
regarding ki'e, the reason it wants the person thanked is because it= 9;s
in selma'o COI, just like je'e, vi'o, doi, and others.

Also, re pe/po.
pe mi is my chair at work or the friend of a friend.
po mi is the chair I bought last week or the sandwhich I brought for
lunch.

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