From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDn6oTlBBoEnWeNAw@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 27 17:23:23 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0Nya-00043R-L5; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:23 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf4784641gwb.16 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zuZqw1bPUF0KR/wfMEQcQ1atLpLqzIHXHgDDTb0UuUQ=; b=3OiCPboV6C4ZVOe2+qTz/JLoQC5qNGBqhJRDdkds1ACyTa00utp0mehOZtV9xuhqdJ X9gbU+qlZ1FswUUSTQWkRjG8/GNuT1tLh60sXVuHPP/VGXZN/e6V0d7A08ZdKTfTk3Z/ 6INWI+6kUWCUbk6pWOiICc5+OiArCvAmkQlyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=aYn5jadD4D45+9f7hXTmaxPk39AVydUEmd1+hYmfa05UXP1Vauf8DH0mjL3yInRsmo SjHq4AiO70vAns7sbRBrQ+51ItSKz2Kbl86oxdAp9cnDzTirjAZ48dU9UJ3UBdFYyp0g IBAqsAOVG2rLXEXdh9Gno+GWaAS2vJSoJQ2vM= Received: by 10.90.3.33 with SMTP id 33mr1381394agc.45.1285633383558; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls2018970ibr.2.p; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.156.194 with SMTP id y2mr1243351ibw.19.1285633382747; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.156.194 with SMTP id y2mr1243350ibw.19.1285633382703; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f176.google.com (mail-iw0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id db12si4091021ibb.5.2010.09.27.17.23.01; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by mail-iw0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 40so90523iwn.21 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.167.146 with SMTP id q18mr9817479iby.152.1285633381477; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:23:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100925023935.GA18705@alice.local> <201009271901.55338.jezuch@interia.pl> <20100927171800.GB25976@alice.local> <201009271938.58364.jezuch@interia.pl> <20100927175015.GD25976@alice.local> <20100927181351.GF25976@alice.local> <20100927181641.GG25976@alice.local> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:23:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] nu pa moi se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u lu'u From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504501572803af57049146d9ee --00504501572803af57049146d9ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see what you're saying. I chose {pruxi} because it only has an x1 so {be= } doesn't work for it. But if a relationship between two things is stronger than {pe} than maybe it's not the right word to begin with if {be} doesn't work for expressing the relationship. 2010/9/27 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > I dunno what I would need it for, it just bothers me that it breaks the > > symmetry. > > hmmm, I imagine some religious texts might find a use for {lo pruxi po'= e > > mi}? > > But wouldn't they use "lo pruxi be mi"? If the soul is part of the > person, why would they use a word that doesn't mean what they mean? If > they have qualms about using "pruxi be" surely they would choose some > other word that means "x1 is the soul of x2" and not one that means > something else. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --00504501572803af57049146d9ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see what you're saying. =A0I chose {pruxi} because it only has an x1 = so {be} doesn't work for it. =A0But if a relationship between two thing= s is stronger than {pe} than maybe it's not the right word to begin wit= h if {be} doesn't work for expressing the relationship.

2010/9/27 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I dunno what I would need it for, it just bothers me that it breaks th= e
> symmetry.
> hmmm, I imagine some religious texts might find a use for {lo pruxi po= 'e
> mi}?

But wouldn't they use "lo pruxi be mi"? If the soul is = part of the
person, why would they use a word that doesn't mean what they mean? If<= br> they have qualms about using "pruxi be" surely they would choose = some
other word that means "x1 is the soul of x2" and not one that mea= ns
something else.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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