From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhC67ITlBBoEfnUQ5Q@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 27 17:26:50 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0O1u-0004q7-Vz; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:50 -0700 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9sf4797368gxk.16 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mW6erRe6muh8mHwPjSJmHrOpXaagMRuBztiiJdHO+ZA=; b=Xn7AOXNN0dXpko+yuVFYoIpbLEZJKH2nYV7preWBLzoQYpDLJ7jd8G7pKO2TedEcHE KQffECQdguWTzTFu5dToQLnmfBhJ2s9wryXcenXxNHG2LIKAEKIiA9t1NHsY8uqfE8kf fOfqkjzL78RIsfOURlBimyzbMTbvrHSQ4mxKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=GCIZ/ENmvgyI5AgDX1S6Dqst5ok8DRuvc2wNF3CMS9Nwxag9sOrbT/eJEVYGs5Ncgx P23EH9q206ITLhC49IL1odmcmCxVDiNAxKx5elXoD6QRyNeuLtRy0FOfZ2J4/LYGecSk qadSYHoCkPszQJYQO0RzMc8wXxbMJEDKmr9fk= Received: by 10.91.103.11 with SMTP id f11mr1320198agm.29.1285633594801; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.125.77 with SMTP id x13ls2021947ibr.1.p; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.10.132 with SMTP id p4mr1272558ibp.1.1285633593020; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.10.132 with SMTP id p4mr1272557ibp.1.1285633592968; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f170.google.com (mail-iw0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z37si4096664ibq.0.2010.09.27.17.26.31; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.170; Received: by iwn37 with SMTP id 37so10866965iwn.1 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.157.135 with SMTP id b7mr9654779ibx.164.1285633591409; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:26:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <729457.38076.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C8DF3A5.3040702@lojban.org> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:26:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: other-centric UI From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504501427386fb45049146e5ad --00504501427386fb45049146e5ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Stela Selckiku wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Jones >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > I find that usage very strange, seeing as normally UI attaches to the >>> > preceding valsi. >>> >>> It's not a UI, it's a COI. It's glue for sticking an experiencer to a >>> UI. It modifies a UI (to its left) by attaching to it the person who >>> experiences that emotion or has that perspective (to its right). The >>> UI that it modifies can in turn attach to anything, as normal. >>> >>> mi'e la stela selckiku >>> mu'o >>> >> >> .i.uaki'e mi ca jimpe > > > mu'i ma do do ckire .i je ma jimpe .i mi djuno lo du'u go'o .i mi fanza > .iku'i mi mojgau .ai do lo du'u do nitcu lo nu jundi lo nu pilno lo cmavo be > zo coi > > --gejyspa > .i.ie mi ca jimpe .i mi na nelci zo'o do ki'u do dragau mi -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Michael Turnian= sky <mturnian= sky@gmail.com> wrote:


On Tue, Sep 14= , 2010 at 4:05 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:=
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Stela Selckiku = <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I find that usage very strange, seeing as normally UI attaches t= o the
> preceding valsi.

It's not a UI, it's a COI. =A0It= 's glue for sticking an experiencer to a
UI. =A0It modifies a UI (to= its left) by attaching to it the person who
experiences that emotion or= has that perspective (to its right). =A0The
UI that it modifies can in turn attach to anything, as normal.

mi'e la stela selckiku
mu'o

.i.uaki'e mi ca jimpe
=A0
=A0=A0 mu'i ma do do ckire .i je ma jimpe .i mi djuno = lo du'u go'o .i mi fanza .iku'i mi mojgau .ai do lo du'u do= nitcu lo nu jundi lo nu pilno lo cmavo be zo coi=A0
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa

.i.ie mi ca jimpe .i mi na nelci zo'= ;o do ki'u do dragau mi

--
mu'o mi'e .= aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu= .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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