From lojban+bncCPrlgoD04bGDVBDY84flBBoEozb28Q@googlegroups.com Tue Sep 28 07:26:38 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0b8Z-0000Ad-OR; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:26:36 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf5428846gya.16 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:26:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LU9nsSHmp8pt17TkbCOFef18WTADt73x2b43YRjr39M=; b=rtSoUCuZkLe66TsSU+SNtqhe+whm3O8prL5/Mr6UOW9HhEtVwiXd9NZ4BxmLHXeYND wwIc320+UHLAK4L4rsLFFwObtCjYD1NBObFQ+M0fjgEtyYbU2j4DkcxJovdMNchpflLN aP5Kc5cpsSVWUAW408bv7VTEZrCxNGchj2d+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T6gXRSZbZi3PKMIWq2ZxPTrg8TIJTrJaNuZJDoP/j/McAqEQ6yOXukie155JdsseNO i+OkyUsiK+Ackj6expBP5XEh/6wM/QEP5+BlyxlPgRPZ5bkcx8yifQvGguYjZhc/pT3b 1u72N//4ymXT930ZSUzHbVxS6JbN9sY44GPyI= Received: by 10.91.196.10 with SMTP id y10mr18247agp.37.1285683672867; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:21:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.193.98 with SMTP id dt34ls2309625ibb.0.p; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr4428ibb.5.1285683671668; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr4427ibb.5.1285683671622; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com (mail-iw0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e25si4558636ibk.7.2010.09.28.07.21.10; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.169; Received: by mail-iw0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 33so8327132iwn.14 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.10.139 with SMTP id p11mr10419946ibp.179.1285683670366; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:21:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.49.137 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:20:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Philip Newton Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:20:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] More glico ambiguous sentences To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: philip.newton@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=philip.newton@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 21:56, Luke Bergen wrote: > Nope.=A0 It was as generic as I made it.=A0 "do not block air flow to avo= id > danger".=A0 The ambiguity being that it could be "do not (block air flow = to > avoid danger)"=A0 as in, people might think that blocking air flow would = help > them avoid danger but they shouldn't do it (silly but grammatical way to > interpret it) or "do not (block air flow) [which will help you] to avoid > danger".=A0 Basically the scope of the "do not" isn't clear There's also "do not (block (air flow to avoid danger))", i.e. there is some air flow which (currently, constantly, or in general) avoids danger, and people are advised not to block it. Cheers, Philip --=20 Philip Newton --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.