From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhDAwojlBBoENQlpTw@googlegroups.com Tue Sep 28 10:09:34 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0dgJ-00086L-6V; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:34 -0700 Received: by qyk12 with SMTP id 12sf10008493qyk.16 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Gie0QpViVat2YTOUmTi/4guoYzlRSfgkP/7tR7tmTU0=; b=Pso14cbDm12WDR3LaaDW1vYU8Bcr/Xf8DgG2B9wtOYKey4glh+4G3m9dginm2QXHlH NZebfAgli2KDsMmIXN/HSWe5EDuDBV0NKbOP3rAHsPKdCL7Pdr7OIzcP2GPeDCqd327H QU0QN8Ubrgp9zYSWnc5fFQwursti0hKcyMciA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ih6rpxS28vMsh5/Y3pbv5NrUVrrNAc7YBodOfrFIjmgXu3K18D7PyzSjVrg4uCFbVE MRheMozGOMrovIayyNS8ad2Wl9T7dhxfgxmz81W7PeT7eSsqYwExvsjpVbGw0xtCYOZF t1JoPE4JO831gVuGgn5XzcOOqPVBT0XUW+2pQ= Received: by 10.229.2.73 with SMTP id 9mr35605qci.26.1285693760026; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.219.212 with SMTP id hv20ls2950466qcb.1.p; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.89.82 with SMTP id d18mr39005qcm.18.1285693759330; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.89.82 with SMTP id d18mr39004qcm.18.1285693759289; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com (mail-qw0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id c41si4319599qcs.4.2010.09.28.10.09.18; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.41; Received: by mail-qw0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 8so123072qwb.28 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.10.217 with SMTP id q25mr124198qcq.274.1285693756436; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.85.3 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:09:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:09:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] [update] le virnu smani blozeile'a From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ed9a0a48042049154e771 --0016364ed9a0a48042049154e771 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Michael Turniansky > > > > I have one quibble with the story, though. I looked at "i ca'o le > > je'erse'a ku ganai do mutce danre jgari le rokci gi'e kancu fi li ci gi > do > > muvdu ba'o lenu je'erse'a" And thought, "If you squeeze the rock very > > tightly (btw, I'd probably use jdari rather than danre, but that's just > me) > > during the shot, and count to three, then after the shot you will move"? > > Huh? Rather than ba'o, I'd say perhaps "lo balvi be" (you will move to > the > > thing in the future of the shot event) > > I'm not sure how they differ. I understood that "ba'o" is "in the > aftermath of ...". I tried to render "... you will be moved after the > shot". > But that's just it, that IS what it means. You will be moved, after the shot. Not you will be moved TO after the shot. It describes when you will move, not your destination. --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016364ed9a0a48042049154e771 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Remo Dentato <= span dir=3D"ltr"><rdentato@gmail.c= om> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Michael Turniansky

> =A0 I have one quibble with the story, though.= =A0 I looked at "i ca'o le
> je'erse'a ku ganai do m= utce danre jgari le rokci gi'e kancu fi li ci gi do
> muvdu ba= 9;o lenu je'erse'a"=A0 And thought, "If you=A0squeeze the= rock very
> tightly (btw, I'd probably use jdari rather than danre, but that&#= 39;s just me)
> during the shot, and count to three, then after the s= hot you will move"?
> Huh?=A0Rather than ba'o, I'd say p= erhaps "lo balvi be" (you will move to the
> thing in the future of the shot event)

I'm not sure h= ow they differ. I understood that "ba'o" is "in the
a= ftermath of ...". I tried to render "... you will be moved after = the
shot".
=A0
=A0 But that's just it, that IS what it means.=A0 You will be move= d, after the shot.=A0 Not you will be moved TO after the shot.=A0 It descri= bes when you will move, not your destination.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa
=A0

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