From lojban+bncCImt2I62AxCX1Y3lBBoElxkhGQ@googlegroups.com Wed Sep 29 09:34:48 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P0zcB-0001SP-Jw; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:34:47 -0700 Received: by qwb8 with SMTP id 8sf772797qwb.16 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:34:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4fRSF3itnb4LvTkbxx2GXFtQW6IlZ42ErG1M2aJ7xlM=; b=Q4swsaRVU9j0B+B5G4PwzaU+W45kTQC/nfc9pT/EcmU1riQt03+g5Ngse/QIBNi5CJ Lfcv0OqMzO4BCk/mE8YEUHDlapKBT++4R+V1dABuXZAxyeOOKWeyBVaak1TLLnFYbSaA Y7lBQ23G/RDU9xLeZIi558SZseH3Qoeyez0wc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZNDcdlfLFm8giZT+jG4I9jCScO6eVZelsNhqPshgUw5F+Te2B3U/J0vwLbLk5QOeUt dVObZgmcp7T2zKRSVDoAxFP/enAtMrwWjj/DzZL3EpXlrWHI6uL17Eac9PZggOr1m4HQ wj11uvE5NSIv3Vgut5TsGsyOLlJa2QT83zHh0= Received: by 10.224.76.1 with SMTP id a1mr104191qak.19.1285778071922; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:34:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.66.218 with SMTP id o26ls202823qai.3.p; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:34:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.75.71 with SMTP id x7mr104029qaj.10.1285778071186; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by m16g2000vbs.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:34:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 63.87.94.130 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.3 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/6.0.472.63 Safari/534.3,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <17675bb0-02ea-4e8a-a7fe-e38e02c0d4ae@m16g2000vbs.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: To Polish fellow lojbanists From: ctujvecli To: lojban X-Original-Sender: ctujvecli@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've had some experience in using ScanSoft Agata for a very similar purpose (with modifications in TextAloudMP3 Pronunciation settings). On the whole the main issue is one of licensing, for private use there are ideal and I am actually adapting the Lojban Reference Grammar for an audiobook and listening whenever I can (Currently using IVONA's Amy). However, I've had to take all of these renditions down from my website (learnlojban.com) as they violated licensing. I've since begun replacing the recordings with the eSpeak English voice. What's great is that there is also a Lojban voice with proper pronunciation... however, the quality is of course nowhere near that of IVONA or others. I'm inquiring from IVONA what the cost of licensing is for broad distribution - until then we can hope that some developers (perhaps at IVONA!) who are involved would be willing to offer a license free or public domain version of perhaps just Lojban voice... clearly it does not have the commercial implications of English or other spoken languages! Appreciate your posting! co'o mi'e ctujvecli On Sep 29, 2:31=A0am, Remo Dentato wrote: > Long time ago I was exploring the possibility of using IVONA voices to > render lojban text. > > IVONA is one of the best TTS around. Being a Polish product, the > Polish voices are more advanced than other. > > Unfortunately I got stuck at finding a direct correspondence between > lojban and Polish phonemes trying to differentiate between {'} and > {x}. > > For example, to hear a rendition of: > {coi ro do .i mi'e .evas. .i mi tavla la lojban .i mi xrukla le zdani} > > go tohttp://www.ivona.com/online/editor.php, select the Ewa voice, > paste the following and press play. > > rszoi ro do. ij. mi~'hi~'ee evas. ij. =A0mi tavla la locz~'ban. ij. mi > chrukla le zdani. > > I'm not sure if that rendition would be ok neither if there's a better > way to make the Polish voice to better render lojban phonemes. > > If any Polish speaker lojbanist would like to try IVONA and tell me if > there's any mapping, I'll try to revamp the old script I was writing > (that is buried somewhere in my harddisk) to convert from plain lojban > to something that could be feeded to IVONA recording. > > remo --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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