From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDE5I3lBBoE2Q4kfQ@googlegroups.com Wed Sep 29 10:07:31 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P107r-0005UX-Cg; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:07:31 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf458175pxi.16 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:07:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=t1Xv5/1CxmwRza5gWDNPWEbTeoj+H9rTS0yVAKv7bLs=; b=u5hWXZSSlrtUa0T+Nace5mOGgcCzaelrvavNeFdkuT65niNeeE4QP0Wt280S9IQ4sl Xis47ppqF1XuZkE3i1P2mDvyjYqEFO3L9zYTM0kGAgz3enI3tfHl8dLguPqAAQztXtb5 pXWDw6RiERQTqXH0v9PL7cZNgOHQABXcuX2NE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=3SiKxEIqiUnfhY0QxU2rdhLDiqJJc5Ib4wI/25eXz9ShtgOSdFCTMgqdHG/3+Rkpqb Cjb6HvL5+NX6ZSf89YiwrIMfAT2fCxhIbMO4v6qJXdtctNhzwCbmAsdIvTcQWrwN66kA acDDFvVu74PXiXBTk6A49LHvejluYxFeG83Yc= Received: by 10.142.3.5 with SMTP id 5mr170775wfc.2.1285780036284; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:07:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls972349wff.3.p; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr590294wfu.19.1285780035756; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr590293wfu.19.1285780035736; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n18si10388977wfd.1.2010.09.29.10.07.15; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R3xZCyK5Rzzq4RgmEA8QIQ3hFZTdsD3z+kRPUs1QTwQ= c=1 sm=0 a=4copxIXAspQA:10 a=jPJDawAOAc8A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=eFe9dkUizx6FprybUS8A:9 a=qBy-WI5vXNBVu1ST2pyTK5Cj92IA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:39065] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D9/55-06710-34273AC4; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:07:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81A26262 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:07:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5Blojban=5D_Re=3A_Spelling_of_the_name_of_the_Lojban_?= =?UTF-8?Q?in_Polish_=28matter_of_=27Lojban=27_or_=27Lo=C5=BCban=27=29?= Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:07:10 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <3fb41468-d367-4724-97da-df8ca4fe7187@w19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <514821.86177.qm@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009291307.11608.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 29 September 2010 11:44:54 ctujvecli wrote: > -> Lo=C5=BCban <- as per other comments English does not have a letter fo= r > this phoneme and we should take advantage since we can. Languages are > primarily oral in nature and writing should adapt. This will also make > it easier for Polish speaking nintadni... How about "Lo=C5=BCbanski" or "po Lo=C5=BCbansku"? (Btw, what case is the l= atter? In=20 Russian it ends in "-=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B8", which doesn't match any form, exc= ept the plural=20 short form, which is used only predicatively.) Russian adds "-=D1=81=D0=BA= =D0=B8=D0=B9" to all=20 sorts of language names, and I know of only one non-Balto-Slavic language= =20 which already ends in that, namely Burushaski. Pierre --=20 The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.