From lojban+bncCJrK5PGGEBCH3JDlBBoEx2zVkQ@googlegroups.com Wed Sep 29 23:28:39 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P1CdA-0006KZ-8E; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:28:38 -0700 Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40sf421307wyb.16 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:28:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:from:organization :to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :x-interia-antivirus:x-emid:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=3zhACJlmRfSkEA2flAfdykXdmdJ53OwQtzkJrDvpukM=; b=sxohG2y1cxB+YAhXFuYtLiOH09ZCZ6ECCeqFNJwOfJRz2mmXbvdwJtO4dmp7ezhOl1 XNLjvigkXgFETYHlfXp08sRcOIxx2uZi7c6/lo0znI3nL0moRc4hzcMl7MwN3L8I4rQI 4klAQv+Pk6jWOvO8+YWTQi/93xjcqH1uLGPqo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:organization:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:x-interia-antivirus:x-emid :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; b=GLMhDQ/cYiLweRmO/+3Ht5/APMEeWi6dGBJW1gmwN+E95XFA6x2xz1XR1da/5VBHKs G7tYgj72pnm1K3x4apmXmtKt57BNNgclz4DPwgisFWC25m4YxrrcWnVzkuivrU7zDpSl Q2ses0G1Lu/rEjO+C+u4iZqDac2+/iacBSyBk= Received: by 10.216.145.135 with SMTP id p7mr679995wej.26.1285828103399; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:28:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.46.209 with SMTP id r57ls120080eeb.2.p; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.53.12 with SMTP id f12mr235230eec.0.1285828101814; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.53.12 with SMTP id f12mr235229eec.0.1285828101792; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.205]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a48si9831324eei.2.2010.09.29.23.28.21; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.205 as permitted sender) client-ip=217.74.65.205; Received: by smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL, from userid 502) id 55B27BE3AD; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:28:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zx-spectrum-1 (c204.idd156.nettete.pl [77.79.204.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:28:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jezuch by zx-spectrum-1 with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P1Cje-00042f-OA for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:35:19 +0200 From: Krzysztof Sobolewski Organization: Sobole To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] To Polish fellow lojbanists Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:35:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.33.7-test; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201009291830.09258.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <201009291830.09258.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1996583.bemkgoYLqB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009300835.18694.jezuch@interia.pl> X-Interia-Antivirus: OK X-EMID: 67048acc X-Original-Sender: jezuch@interia.pl X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.205 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jezuch@interia.pl Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , --nextPart1996583.bemkgoYLqB Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia czwartek, 30 wrze=B6nia 2010 o 00:30:07 Pierre Abbat napisa=B3(a): > That would work with "mi'e", as there is no word "mie", but it wouldn't w= ork=20 > with "pe'i" or "ta'i" as the words "pei" and "tai" exist and are in the s= ame=20 > respective selma'o. Commas make no difference to the identity of a word. {ei} is a diphtong; we don't have "official" diphtongs in Polish, but the d= ifference between "pei" (for {pe'i}) and "pej" (for {pei}) is very clear. W= hen I want to be really precise when I'm writing "phonetically" using Polis= h ortography, I write "pe-i" for {pe'i} (assuming silent {'}, of course). =2D-=20 Ecce Jezuch "Hell is other people" - J-P. Sartre --nextPart1996583.bemkgoYLqB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkykL6MACgkQy0fq9RM+Txi/9gCfb07mnnpHd/BlnFwRP3iuuBD9 AkoAn0BvsLIH681tztffbZFtVyKBEG14 =t1BY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1996583.bemkgoYLqB--